Oscar: “Golovkin felt the power of Canelo that’s why he doesn’t want the rematch”

First of all, I don't have any inside knowledge on Canelo not being enrolled VADA. It seems to me that this is a big sticking point with a lot of Golovkin fans and it's something that's being pushed by Abel Sanchez who keeps bringing it up so I'm happy to entertain this.

It seems to me (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that generally fighters enroll in VADA on a fight-by-fight basis. Meaning agreeing to random testing is specified as a part of the fight contract that both fighters sign.

So after the May 5th fight was cancelled, it is not unusual for Canelo to not be enrolled in VADA because he does not have a fight scheduled where testing was agreed on. Now I understand the concern you have for a fighter who recently tested positve to not be tested, I get that, but it's not as if Canelo went out of his way to refuse testing. In fact, he participated in extended testing in March and April up until the hearing to show he's clean including submitting a hair follicle for testing.

So, again, as I understand it, that's how testing generally works. Now I understand there's a push for fighters to be tested year round 24/7, but it seems to me that it's a risk and an inconvenience for a fighter to agree to that when there is no pay off. So this whole "Canelo isn't enrolled in VADA" is because he doesn't have a fight scheduled where VADA testing is agreed to by both fighters.

And what's interesting is that Abel Sanchez is quoted in an interview from I think around 2014 about how he sees no reason for Golovkin to be tested if his opponent doesn't agree to be tested, how it wouldn't be fair for a fighter to be tested if his opponent wasn't. (Something to that affect, you may have heard the interview)

Let me just say that if fighters agree to be tested year round even when they don't have fights scheduled, that's great and all, but that doesn't seem to be the norm, and some fighters still don't get tested at all as testing still isn't required.

For you to say "The guy is dirty and everyone knows it." sounds really ignorant. There's no way for any of us to know if he's dirty or cheating. He's proved he's clean because he's been tested over a long period of time. When you say something like that it suggests you have a huge agenda against Canelo and you're probably a Golovkin fan. You're entitled to your opinion but your belief that he's dirty is nothing more than a theory, a baseless theory at that. He tested clean for the first fight, he tested clean following the trace amounts of clenbuterol, and given that, there's nothing to indicate that he's anything other than a clean fighter. You just fell in love with this belief that Canelo is using banned substances and now that he's not being tested in your mind that's evidence that he's doping. You're coming at this with a very clear agenda and I'm guessing you're a huge Golovkin fan. Any reasonable minded fan would see the positive test as very likely to have been an accidental ingestion of contaminated meat and there would be no reason to believe Canelo would ever use a banned substance intentionally. It just doesn't make any sense why he would risk such a huge payday and fight by taking a banned substance.

 

When did Canelo FIRST sign up with VADA testing?

 

Oscar has become an oxygen thief

 

Get his **** out your mouth and you'll breath better.

 

Actually, this is where your whole argument falls apart... the WBC mandates that fighters ranked in the top 15 are to be enrolled in year around testing in their clean boxing program which is ran by VADA so no its not a risk or convenience it is a requirement of the WBC. Canelo is ranked #2 and is not enrolled or being tested GGG is being tested and has been since the program was created... so its pretty simple Canelo is avoiding testing.
http://vada-testing.org/515/

 

Oscar is in love with the coco!!!
Canelo gets peds on the low low!!

 

The power of Canelo is a 118-110 scorecard in his favor in a fight he clearly lost.
Pretty sure Golovkin felt that yes.

 

I am reading through the protocols of the CBP and it specifies that the protocols apply only to eligible boxers.

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/8135-overview-of-the-wbc-clean-boxing-program

Both protocols apply to any boxer eligible to compete in a WBC-sanctioned contest (the “Eligible Boxer”)

B. Out-of-Competition Anti-Doping Testing Protocol and Frequency
An Eligible Boxer will be subject to the CPB’s Out-of-Competition Anti-Doping Testing at any time or day, using any such process, frequency, or collection and testing protocol that VADA may determine in its sole discretion.

Canelo is not currently an eligible boxer. He is currently suspended and therefore is not subject to the protocols of the CBP as he is not currently eligible to compete in a WBC-sanctioned contest.

 

actually, that is not true he could schedule a fight tomorrow in Mexico, South America, Japan Canada, Europe etc he is not suspended by the WBC he is suspended from fighting in Nevada by the NSAC and that is it... It's the same reason Tyson was Able to fight Lewis in a different state after being denied a Nevada license.

 

Sulaiman is working with VADA holy cow the man who stands by Cuadras and Canelo. What kind of BS is happening here. Come on Sulaiman you have been supporting and protecting pedders.

 

Is Oscar trolling?

 

He often does. He likes to mess with the GGGoons.

 

BS..

The only power i saw was GGG backing up Canelo everytime he hits him. Canelo was on the run. .

Oscar you are delusional..

 

I don't have any inside information on it, I'm just sharing with you what they're protocols state. What you're saying sounds right, and frankly I don't know how the WBC enforces its CBP. I think I heard Sulaiman say something about him requiring Canelo to be tested in the near future, like after the rankings come out or something. I can't remember what he said but he said something about it. If you have any other information about this please share it.