Oscar ain't goin' out like that!!!!

If you honestly think that De La Hoya has never beaten a single good fighter, then the conversation ends now.

I also know a troll when I see one. :hi:

 

Do you think RJJ's defeats around the same age affected his career?

 

Oh so you felt alluded to by my comment? You are admitting your an Oscarsexual? Do whatever you want with your thread, you can put it in your ass if you want , just where you wish you had De la Hoya's ***** right now.

 

Yes... because Roy was still #1 pd 4 pd in the world. It isn't about age. Everyone could see that Oscar was clearly on the slide before this fight. Roy was considered to be at the top of his game when Tarver beat him. Oscar was doing a video interview BEFORE the Pac fight, and on there he even talked about how he could tell that his legs weren't there anymore, and that they were the first things to go. It was rather clear in the fight... and most of Oscar's fights for the last couple years that his legs aren't there.

 

Double standards I'm afraid. Roy came down from 193 to 175. He also fought a 175lb man when he himself started his career at 154. Your right in saying Roy was p4p #1 but i'm sure you and I can agree fighters can literally age overnight. I'm sure we can also agree going down in weight isn't the best idea, especially when a fighters in their mid-thirties. RJJ still managed to win a hard fought victory when coming down but he clearly wasn't the same. The weight drop while compared to RJJ's was alot less it still affected him. Anyway I feel if DLH's career isn't affected then neither should RJJ's.

I bring up RJJ as they were around the same age when experiancing bad defeats. While DLH wasn't p4p #1 I was still convinced he'd cream Pacman.

 

Oscars more washed up than my faded black jeans

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wow odl is 0-life is big fights, no excuses please and if he fights a overrated ch jr so what
anyone with common sense knows odl can not beat a prime super star so beating a b level fighter means what?????

 

How is that a double standard? Oscar hadn't been pd 4 pd #1 for over a decade before the Pac fight... he was inactive, and you could tell by watching him fight that he was on the slide. I haven't said a damn thing about Oscar dropping down in weight, that isn't an issue for me.

In reality, Roy Jones only cut weight from 193 to 186... which he weighed on fight night against Tarver. Obviously, from 186 to 175 was just water weight like most boxers lose before every fight.... which is why when he rehydrated he went back up. So.... I don't really consider from 193 down to 186 being a big deal... I don't know who would. Antonio Tarver cuts well over 25 pounds before every single fight, including that one against Roy.... he wasn't complaining.

The point is not their age, it is WHERE they were in their careers. Roy was still at the top of his game... he was #1 pd 4 pd on EVERYEONE's list... and only AFTER he got sparked do people try to rewrite history and pretend like Roy was shot. Fighters don't get shot from one fight to the next... it doesn't happen. You see a decline... just like we had all seen in Oscar for years. No, I don't believe in the "age overnight" nonsense... it's complete bull****.

 

Okay we disagree. But a supposed GREAT like DLH cannot be considered great when the get spanked all over the ring by a man who only fought a lightweight once. If the weight was nothing to do with it then he has no excuse. He didn't look too bad against Steve Forbes yet he got completely destroyed against a man who started his career at flyweight FFS! Oscar was never great, he lost to all of the best fighters he faced and he was never p4p#1. BTW RJJ had to make weight of 175 not 186 so weigh still had to be lost. Then again from 150 to 147 is only three pounds.

 

BTW RJJ wasn't in his prime when he fought Tarver. When was Oscar's prime?

 

Very good post.

Widdowmaker just contradicted himself. In his last post he said RJJ's weight loss was and I quote "no big deal" but ever since Oscar was embarrassed by a 105 pounder (Pac) , he says it was because Oscar was weight drained. Hmmmmmm interesting.