Oscar Bonavea vs Jerry Quarry

I TEnD to go along with you. Quarry probably sd 12. Ringob was tough thou. He sure had a wierd style didnt he? He gave smokin joe all he ask for &more. many had him winning the 1st fight. I am a big Quarry fan , he just couldnt beat the greatest thou ,how many could!! But i do believe he could have beaten Ellis cept he injured back saving a surfers life.:hi:

 

I'd pick Quarry. Bonavena burnt out fast, became a guy who wanted to take money and run after Frazier bouts. He used to pull stunts on promoters, waiting till last minute to ask for more money or not fight. He had problems with Madison Square Garden over it.

Quary was inconsistant, and seemed to choke when he was in some big fights, like second one with Frazier, and first Ali bout. Against Bonavena he'd be up for fight, I think. Like Mac Foster, and Lyle, when Quarry did his best.

Bonavena was a head case in ring also, in first Frazier fight 3 knockdown rule was in effect. 3 knockdowns, fight stopped. He drops Frazier once, then second time. Lot of tie left in round, Frazier gets up a bit shaky. So what does he do, go after him? No, he starts backpedaling ! He runs rest of round, let's Frazier recover and get back into it.

 

Neither man's chin was rock solid , especially not Bonavena's .

 

I think the problem for Bonavena may of been his poor balance when
Bull- rushing in, Both Ellis and Folly (1st fight) had him on the floor and Matadored him, If Jerry sticks to a Lyle type blueprint he should have no trouble staying a step step&Half ahead of Ringo, - but he must keep his concentration, or a Chuvalo Mishap could occur, But Jerry should be able to use his extra verity to win on points.

 

At first glance... I thought Quarry by decision but I really don't feel that comfortable with that pick.

Oscar went the distance with Frazier twice. He dropped Joe twice in their fight and lost by MD over 10. He lost by 15 round decision in the remacth for Joe's NYSAC HW World Title. Oscar lost a pretty close decision to Ellis in the WBA Tournament. He was stopped in the 15th round by Ali... his only stoppage loss. He also had his moments vs. Patterson and Lyle but lost to both. The loss to Folley was clear... so was Quarry's loss to Machen.

Oscar is stronger and more durable. Quarry was the better boxer. Who knows? I think a close decision, could go either way.

 

What I mean by durable is despite being down he was able to last because his face didn't bust open like Quarry's .

 

give chuvalo a lil credit it was more then a mishap,you could see quarry fading more each round.quarry had hit chuvalo with his best shots and he was still there,that sucks the life from a boxer.
also quarry had been at some bar sucking back beers all afternoon of the fight,bad mistake on his part.

 

Quarry is the better boxer for my money, Bonavena wouldn't make it easy so Quarry UD 8-4 or 10-5, maybe wider though because Quarry is such a smooth boxer

 

Here comes the canadian horse**** again. Quarry dominated that fight and was well on his way to a stoppage after what is almost universally recognized as a wierd ending.

 

weird yes. canadian or not i admit it was pretty ****ing odd. chuvalo deserves credit but it was an unusual KO

 

Jerry was stopped four times on cuts, Ringo never. Chuvalo was known to cut on occasion, while Bonavena wasn't really a bleeder. Oscar could be very rough on the inside.

No question that Jerry had much quicker hands, and was the better boxer. But there were instances where he gassed badly, while Bonavena was actually coming on a bit in the championship rounds against a tiring Frazier in their rematch. (Fortunately for Ringo though, there was no Frazier-Bonavena III, a third match Smoke would have won very conclusively from 1969 to 1971.)

Best for best, Jerry should take a clear UD, but he should have done that with Chuvalo also. He had the skills and quickness to strike suddenly enough to put Oscar down a time or two, like Ellis did. Watch out for the late rounds. JQ did finish strongly against Lyle, Middleton and Spencer, but these were exceptions, not the rule with Jerry. Stamina is hugely in Ringo's favor.

 

This is a tough call, as both guys were close in ability and physical characteristics. However Quarry was the better schooled, more skilled fighter overall. Quarry was also sufficiently durable and hard hitting to hang in there on the inside with Ringo. Overall, Quarry's counterpunching and boxing skill would make the difference. I see Quarry emerging victorious via a close but clear cut decision.

Whoever said that these guys were chinny, I disagree. Ringo and Quarry were both known for being able to take a punch.

 

were you at the fight no you watched tapes of it,il duce told me he was there i consider him a bit more knowledgeable on this fight then you are

 

The whole fight is easily accesible and to be honest I don't see your argument here. Clearly quarry was winning the fight and was counted out on a bad call. Or quarry miscounted. Who the hell knows.