Oscar Bonavena vs Tommy Morrison - who would win and why?

Bonevena

 

I think Morrison has a better chance than most are giving him, provided the fight is not near his hometown and he hasn't been busy partying and whoring. Those are big caveats and safe money is still on Bonavena. However, Morrison would be the hardest puncher he ever faced and that fact could produce excitement.

 

Did Morrison fight Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Moorer, Ibeabuchi, Douglas, Tua, Hide or even a younger version of Ruddock? Of course not, and who could blame him after getting sparked in one by Bentt or barely surviving Purity?

Bentt fought 10 professional fights, fought Hide, got his ass kicked and then was sent to the hospital with a concussion.... End of career... The fact that his only notable moment in boxing was blasting out Morrison is no complement to the duke...

having 8 professional fights against a seasoned contender can be of no advantage to anyone..

D way Morison dispatched (of) Tillis & Thomas was unique . Fact .[/QUOTE]

No... Both of those men had already been well exposed years before Morrison ever got to them.. Especially Tillis who had lost some 17 times and was stopped in one round by Tim Witherspoon 8 years earlier.. Incidentally, the Thomas win for Morrison was a result of a cut that forced a corner retirement..

 

I dont know BUT reading Franken Franks explanation makes sense to me!! Also what he comes back with ,in his second blog. True Bentt got Tommy in 1,BUT Tommy also kod some real goodins in pinklon. You know I just think a lot of you guys remember Tommy being out gunned by Huge L.Lewis. Folley boxed Ringos ears off,Tommy Could BOX(scientifically)Styles make fights Tommy machine gun by UD@!!!!

 

Oh it gets better, believe me. Just be sure to be like Theseus and unwind a long piece of string behind you so you can find your way out of the endless labrynth of illogic that you are being led down. I don't like to be an ass either, but he does this sort of thing all the time. I'm convinced that the moderators have created this guy in order to keep things stirred up and active in here.

Try pointing out to him that Zora Folley had an impressive 68-7 record going into the fight and had shown no major signs of being "shot" as Franken claims. In fact he hadn't lost in two years leading up to the Bonavena fight and wouldn't lose again for another 2 years after (when he lost to Ali). Also the supposedly "shot" Folley was a top 10 ranking HW when he fought Bonavena (top 5, actually). Ask him to explain that and you will merely get a dose of more of the sort of thing he has given you already.

 

And just for d record, here are d 1965 rankings which clearly show d supposedly "shot" Folley firmly ensconced in d number 5 slot:

Muhammad Ali, Champion

1. Ernie Terrell
2. Floyd Patterson
3. George Chuvalo
4. Karl Mildenberger
5. Zora Folley
6. Amos Lincoln
7. Thad Spencer
8. Doug Jones
9. Hubert Hilton
10. Brian London

 

Since Morison retired in 1996 it's not a shock he didn't fight Tua or Ibeabuchi , especially Ibeabuchi . And since Bentt derailed him & took his title and then Hide did d same 2 Bentt , it's not a shock he didn't fight with Hide although it was still a needed fight and since it never happened inflicts more on Hide than on Morison if u ask me , unless shown otherwise of course , as Hide had d title . Now if he fought Douglas then ppl would have raised d same claims u had about Tillis & Thomas .
I bet if those who were in d know would have bothered , then u could get your answers regarding Holyfield , Tyson , Bowe & Moorer .
And when was he supposed 2 fight "a younger version of Ruddock" ? in his debut , or 10 fights after ?

But my claims u argued with still stand & u took nothing from them with this .

A slow and worn out already 2 seasoned contender .
But OK , u have a valid claim in here .

Valid claims again , but r u sure that Witherspoon's win over Tillis was legit ? like I can expect u as a poster here 2 know what legit is :yep .

 

Tommy Gun was legit, 2 legit to quit.

I think he will be Hall of Fame first ballot, he was an excellent scientific boxer, schooling the legendary Foreman like he did. Ali didn't even school George that flawlessly.

Things must be considered:

Against Mercer, he had an ear infection that threw off his balance.

Going into Bentt fight, Tommy had irritable bowel syndrome and took the dive so he could drop a deuce.

He lost to Lewis with AIDS. And beat a prime Ruddock, da same Ruddock who took da best version of Tyson to the limit! To the limit..oh yeah.

He drew wiht Purrity, but Purrity beat th egreat Klitschko...hmmm.

 

Tommy Gunn blasted out Union Cane for the heavyweight title... Cane was using his alias for that fight, as his birth name "Mike Williams" couldn't sell tickets.. Gunn gave a great account of himself against Rocky Balboa, throwing him through a cast iron gate in the streets of Philly..

 

Great , a top 10 with Folley , Thad Spencer , Amos Lincoln , Karl Mildenberger above Doug Jones . I will agree on Folley being a top 10 of that overflowed with talent era though :yep , but that's y Folley made its top 10 anyway .

 

Yeah really.. Bonavena taking on the #5 contender in his 9th pro fight, was nothing compared to the incredible risk Morrison's people took by placing him in with the outstanding 18-17 Lorenzo Boyd in HIS 9th fight..

 

sure,

Instead of retracting your statement about Folley being a washed up bum, now your attacking the strength of the era... Typical.. Bonavena fighting the #5 contender in his 9th pro fight was nothing compared to the heroic career track that Morrison took fighting a shot Tillis in his 25th fight... Who could disagree?

 

You are forgetting that Tillis and Thomas were Mike Tyson opponents. Tyson opponents all have grossly underrated skills and few if any weaknesses.

 

Despite that list , Folley was not a top 5 of that time frame , but yes a top 10 , Bonavena's management knew Folley's worth and him being well past his prime , not that he was anything special during his prime , took d fight , and Bonavena got beat . Any mistakes ?

 

I think you got it the other way around..... Folley was not chosen as a safe opponent for Bonavena, but rather Oscar was probably selected as a "stay busy" fight for Zora. Bonavena was nobody at the time, had no real amateur pedagree, and in all likelihood was never expected to go anywhere... His manager ( a dentist and former war veteran ), saw a good paying fight opportunity and signed his boy up to make a quick buck ( probably without even the intention that he'd win ).. As it turned out, Bonavena later developed into a respectale contender, but this is all in hindsite... He was not being fed easy touches early on.... If you're going to look at pre-madonnas' being hand fed, then look no further than Morrison.... He was the nephew of celebrity John Wayne, had already been in a big movie role, was white during a time when caucasion contenders had gone the way of the dinosaur and had a crowd pleasing-puncher's style..... They groomed him by padding his record with some of the softest tomatoe cans around, and didn't take a chance with a TRUE contender until his 29th career fight - at which point he got his ass handed to him...