Oscar De La Hoya: best 1st 5 years of any career ever??

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  1. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First legitimate welterweight? What about Pernell, Carr, Quartey?
    By the way, Hoya beat Trinidad.
     
    eliqueiros, Aug 4, 2008
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  3. Pimp C

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    Not no but **** no! Tyson had a better first five PBF had a great first 5 so did SRL so did RJJ. I could go on and on.
     
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  4. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Good looks and a killer left hook.....Double Threat Guy!!!
     
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  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Stop hat'n :yep
     
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  6. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    roy jones wernt that impressive in his first five years. it took him 4 years to get a title shot. this was not due to a lack of ability but due to the fact that jones wouldnt go with one of the big promotors
     
    TIGEREDGE, Aug 4, 2008
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  7. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pernell was a lightweight, who moved up. By the way, the same case could be made for Pernell & Quartey against De La Hoya.
     
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  8. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Otherwise normal males like this Bozo would knock over three naked Hooter's Girls to get to de la Hoya and try to rip his shirt off.
     
    Jack Presscot, Aug 4, 2008
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  9. Jack Presscot

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    We can also credit him for exposing DLH as a scaredy cat.
     
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  10. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike Tyson
     
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  11. DINAMITA

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    Tyson's 1st 5 years
    Career started: Mar 1985
    World titles won: WBC/WBA/IBF heavyweight titles (3)
    Weight divisions won world titles in: 1
    Record after 5: 37-1
    Best wins: Michael Spinks KO1, Pinklon Thomas TKO6, Tony Tucker W12, Tony Tubbs TKO2
    p4p placing end of five: 7th (slid from 1st to 7th after Douglas KO)
    The Ring Fighter of the Year 1986 and 1988

    Holyfield's 1st 5 years
    Career started: Nov 1984
    World titles won: WBC/WBA/IBF cruiserweight titles (3)
    Weight divisions won world titles in: 1
    Record after 5: 22-0
    Best wins: Dwight Muhammad Qawi SD12, Dwight Muhammad Qawi KO4, Pinklon Thomas TKO7, Michael Dokes TKO10
    p4p placing end of 5: 6th
    The Ring Fighter of the Year 1987

    Jones Jr's 1st 5 years
    Career started: May 1989
    World titles won: IBF middleweight title (1)
    Weight divisions won world titles in: 1
    Record after 5: 25-0
    Best wins: Bernard Hopkins UD12, Sugar Boy Malinga KO6, Jorge Castro UD10, Thomas Tate KO2
    p4p placing end of 5: 8th
    No Fighter of the Year award yet by the end of his 1st 5 years in May 1994

    Mayweather's 1st 5 years
    Career started: October 1996
    World titles won: WBC super-featherweight title (1)
    Weight divisions won world titles in: 1
    Record after 5: 25-0
    Best wins: Diego Corrales TKO10, Angel Manfredy TKO2, Genaro Hernandez TKO8, Carlos Hernandez UD12
    p4p placing end of 5: 7th
    The Ring Fighter of the Year 1998

    All magnificent first 5's, but when u read that long list on De La Hoya, I genuinely think his was superior. He was the only one to end his 1st 5 years as pound-for-pound number 1, only one to win 5 world titles, only one to do so at more than 1 weight division (3 actually).

    The only real alternative anyone has suggested IMO is Sugar Ray Leonard, and although he didn't achieve as much, he definitely has a strong case due to the names on the record. Duran, Hearns and Benitez clearly beat the 3 best on De La Hoya's (Hernandez, and not-shot but past-prime Chavez and Whitaker)

    I still vote De La Hoya on this.
     
    DINAMITA, Aug 4, 2008
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  12. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disagreed. Oscar may have won 5 belts, but he never won a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP (Till he fought Vargas) and never truly Unified, and was NEVER an Undisputed WORLD CHAMPION. He won many titles, many belts, but had no longevity with any of them.
     
    Jack Presscot, Aug 4, 2008
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  13. Pimp C

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    He got a gift in the Pea fight. He was dropped, clowned and outlanded in that fight. A faded Pea will forever own Oscar between the ropes.:deal
     
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  14. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For a guy currently campainging at Jr. Middleweight. I hardly think him beating Jr. Lightweights & Lightweights is that all awe inspiring. If Roy Jones started out at Jr. Welter. Wouldn't his resume be just as impressive if not more?
     
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  15. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed, 110% and for a lot of us who werent there to witness the robbery, we felt avenged on Cinco de Mayweather, 2007, because it was like that night all over again!!!
     
    Jack Presscot, Aug 4, 2008
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