Oscar De La Hoya: best 1st 5 years of any career ever??

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  1. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The rematch was clearly Mosley, but the first one was very close.
     
  2. DINAMITA

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    He won the 2nd Mosley fight but not the 1st.

    ANYWAY, back to the actual point of the thread: who has the best 1st 5 years of their career.

    I'm hearing a lot of Oscar-hating, but not that many alternatives to him or genuine reasons why he doesn't have the best.

    Looking at the records I think showed his was better than Holyfield, Jones Jr or Mayweather for definite. Tyson is a tough call, but I give it to DLH just coz Tyson ended it with a KO loss to a mediocre fighter, and slid from 1st to 7th p4p. DLH ended as p4p#1 and was still undefeated.
     
  3. DINAMITA

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    The rematch was clearly De La Hoya!! You have them mixed up I think.
     
  4. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was far more effective campaingning as a Middleweight that at LightHeavy.
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Yeah. Just like early on Oscar was more effective as a lightweight then a jr middle. Whats with the double standard.
     
  6. Pimp C

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    I made a case as to why I thought his record wasn't great, the obvious weight-draining picking on smaller and faded guys. I also listed boxers whose record was superior and you chose to ignore it.
     
  7. DINAMITA

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    He did make the weight for each and every fight.
    Therefore, he won each and every title fairly by playing by the rules of the game.
    You didn't back up the guys you said had a better record. I wrote out a list for you, and I don't understand how you think Holyfield or Mayweather or Jones Jr had a better record. Maybe Tyson has a case, but none of the rest, certainly not RJJ or PBF.
     
  8. Jack Presscot

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    He lost to Tito. He got outboxed, 115-114, 6-5-1, and you Oscarsexual ***s still have heartburn with this 9 years later.
     
  9. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of them fought as many midgets as Oscar. Oscar fought James Leija, Troy Dorsey, Jorge Paez and Arturo Gatti, if they do a sequel to "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" we have 4 guys who can play the Oompa Loompas. :good
     
  10. DINAMITA

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    What a load of old tampax. Even Tito's own mum knows he lost that fight. You should be grateful for the luck, not gloating over a robbery.
     
  11. DINAMITA

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    He made the weight. Play by the rules or don't play at all.
     
  12. BewareofDawg

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  13. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Oscar with his build is more like a natural Welterweight. To equate what Oscar did Hopkins would have to have started out at Welterweight, then moved up to Lightheavy. Hopkins went up one Division, up to LightHeavyweight. Well two if you count SuperMiddle. Oscar went up FOUR divisions. from Jr. Light. to Jr. Middle.
     
  14. DINAMITA

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    No, Oscar may have been a more natural welterweight, but he was more effective at light and light-welter because of his greater size and strength advantages. Oscar technically won world titles at 6 weights (super-feather, light, light-welter, welter, light-middle, middle), even though the Sturm decision was a gift and he only fought at middleweight twice.
     
  15. Jack Presscot

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    Well, Titles anyway. Organizational titles.