Oscar De La Hoya did not lose all his big fights

Pac and PBF came when he was old and long past his best, he got robbed against Mosely and Trinidad, and he won that Sturm fight. Somehow it's become a given that he lost that fight, and the fact is he WOULD have lost that fight if Sturm would have wanted it enough to take it, but he didn't. Oscar kept throwing flurries and he kept trying, and all Sturm did is jab, jab, and jab. I was ringside, and the feeling at the fight was that Sturm could step up anytime and take control of the fight, but he never did, and imho he gave it away to Oscar. If someone wants to say that Sturm's constant jabbing was enough to win the fight, fine, but if you say that it was a robbery you're on crack. Hopkins was just a bigger man, and ODLH wasn't going to win that fight. Hopkins isn't Hagler. I don't think there's ever been a welterweight who's going to come up and take his belt. Ever.

There is a certain subset of boxing fan that is just going to hate Oscar, no matter what. The same guys that hate MAB, and for the same reason. ODLH is a good looking guy, he's well spoken, he's business minded and he doesn't give a flying **** about thug credibility. Hoodrats who listen to too much rap are just going to hate that type of person, it reminds them too much of the same type of people that have authority over them in real life. Their opinions can't be swayed. They're haters.

 

I'll pretend you didn't write the rest of that dumbass post.

Question: Did you just say De La Hoya beat Sturm?

Seriously?

 

and he would've lost more fights had be faced Vernon or Winky.

 

I almost spat out my coffee when i read that, some of these fanboys are just so nescient and DLH has more fanboys then most.

 

Yeah uh....I stopped reading about right there.

 

There's not much to say about De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao. It's just a simple fact that it was only the skeleton of De La Hoya in there. He nearly lost his life trying to maintain that weight. He was in no shape to fight that night.

 

I thought DLH beat Trinidad and i also had him 3 rounds up in his rematch with Mosely.

 

He lost to,

Mosley, Quartey, Sturm, Hopkins, Mayweather, Pacquiao,

HAHHA WHAT A JOKE.

 

You can swing his resume both ways. Count all his actual wins, and give him the fights he was robbed in, and he's an ATG easily. Take all of his close wins against him and it doesn't look so good.

 

De la hoya clearly won the 2nd fight with mosley , only person who didnt see the fight can say otherwise , But it was such a shitty and boring fight especially in comparison to their first encounter that i can see why people are forgetting about that "win"

 

I did have Quartey beating him by a round though.

Also the Sturm fight was very close.

 

Pac, yes, not so much PBF. It was actually pretty close.

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that's what I said

no, he didnt

ringside for your hero = emotionally attached

agreed

WTF are you talking about? I just said he's a HOFer, not a heiffer!

 

ODLH has to be one of the most overrated boxers of all time and a fake person.

JCC- He beat JCC in their first fight largely due to a pre-existing cut that was opened by one of the first punches ODLH threw. If you want to count that as a big win then by all means do so. That victory was tainted, and ODLH should have given him a rematch shortly after that fight, and not two years after the fact in a weight class JCC did not belong in.

Miguel Angel Gonzalez- Was a solid B fighter who was nothing special and was still able to push a peak ODLH.

Rafael Ruelas- Another good B fighter who is not HOF material.

Genaro Hernandez- A champ who was good, not great.

Pernall Whitaker- An aging fighter who gave him fits and probably won, but didn't get the nod because he was fighting the rising "star."

Fernando Vargas- A washed up jr. middleweight whose career got dramatically shortened after fighting Cheato Trinidad. A pre-Tito Vargas called out ODLH multiple times only to be ignored. Only after watching the beating that Vargas took did ODLH take him up on his offer.

Ike Quartey- A close fight that Quartey won IMO. The 12th round was ODLH's best round of the fight, which apparently the judges thought that was the whole fight. No rematch either.

Here are the fighters ODLH ducked and could/should have fought:

• Frankie Randall
• Kostya Tyszu
• Vernon Forrest
• James Page
• Jose Luis Lopez
• Winky Wright (ODLH managed to duck him during all of his jr. middleweight career and not getting hammered for it).
• Antonio Margarito (ODLH opted to fight PacMan).
• Didn't even bother to rematch Strum.

ODLH is a good fighter, but vastly overrated. However, he can at least say he was the undisputed king of PPV during his era.

 

Tito and Shane II were dependant on how 3 people scored them. People that say he choked on the big stage are idiots. 3 different judges on those nights and he may well have come out with a W. He fought 10-15 fights at the cream of the crop level and came out 50-50.

 

oscar never fought tyzsu