Oscar De La Hoya is not an ATG.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Aug 22, 2007.


  1. jackiebrown

    jackiebrown Member Full Member

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    its easy to dominate "most " of your competition when you fight nothing but hand picked mandatorys ...

    oscar delahoya has been fighting named ...good ..great ... and beyond names since about 1995-96....

    there was no crying about how he couldnt get fights.. there was no balling about how hbo didnt like him so he had to fight on espn .. no he too the damn fights like a man .. and won damn near all of them ...

    hopkins is still crying about getting whooped by taylor

    **** bernard hopkins
     
  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well obviously.

    Oscar's the big money draw so he can get almost any fight he wants.

    And HBO has been sucking his **** for years.
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Could be. It would have been an interesting fight, and he could have probably fit that fight in before taking on the likes of Kamau, Gonzalez, and Camacho.
     
  4. jackiebrown

    jackiebrown Member Full Member

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    because the guy actually fights... he dosnt beg for more money then hes worth .. then go out there and try to make love to his opponets arms ...

    i cant stand bernard hopkin fights...

    its not like oscar is the only big money draw to ever get "the big fights" .. i dont think oscar "wanted" to fight hopkins when he knew he was gonna get beat ... he didnt "want" to fight the crazy ass wild man from ghana in ike quartey ... oscar could have sat back his whole career and made millions fighting the troy dorseys and the gabrelle ruelases of the world .. but now he wanted to give the ****ing fans something to watch in the idea that MAYBE ..just maybe ..they might respect him for it ...

    but no .. oscars greedy... oscars the golden boy .. oscar isnt an all time great...

    yall are a shame to the sport of boxing .... a man who made millions fighting the absalute best talent in the world .. and you guys have the nerve to call him anything but an all time great....

    same cat coulda made the same amount of cash fighting stiffs ... fewer hard fights makes more easier fights.. means more money in the long run ... incase yall needed someone to do the math for you ....
     
  5. KhanB

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    Why all the hate for Hops? He hasnt had the kind of career Oscar has? Based on what? Selling tickets? Hops is at least one level above Hops. I can at least imagine Hops hanging with Fab four of the 80's. Can you imagine DLH not getting knocked out by Hearns if he barely survived Quartey. Hops has had GREAT performances against all types of fighters and sometimes been the underdog like against the Bigger Tarver and Tito who people say was too small but at the same time admit Tito was a starved WW. Just for the fact alone that Hops at least fought Winky which is something Oscar would never do should keep Hops name out of this.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    Why would Oscar beg for more money than he's worth when he already makes a shitload and can take about 75% of the purse?

    Oscar never fought Gabriel Ruelas. Oscar fought Rafael Ruelas, who was highly regarded at the time, and that was one of De La Hoya's best wins.

    Of course Oscar "wanted" to fight those guys, otherwise he wouldn't have chosen to. He got paid $30 million to fight Hopkins, that's hard for any fighter to turn down.
     
  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I believe Hopkins would have been competitive during the 80's as well, but he lacked the great competition at middleweight that the guys from the 80's had in each other. He earned his status by staying consistent and winning and winning, but he truly never faced another great middleweight besides Jones, and he lost that fight although competitively.
     
  8. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I rate Oscar as an ATG
     
  9. jackiebrown

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    bernard begs for more money then hes worth ... and does jack **** to earn it ...

    oscar dosnt have to beg ..because hes exciteing .. he brings in the gates.. poeple wanna see him fight because they know hes gonna fight ...

    roy jones jr was the at his highlight reel best in the 90s .. you wanna know why he never made a 20-30 million dollar purse? ..and this goes for hopkins too... both .."atgs" as you guys put....the reason why they didnt make that kinda money is .. nobody wants to see roy jones ko a ****ing trash can in two rounds... and nobody wants to see hopkins hug it out and sucker fight a 30-10-5 bum that he should be putting on their back ! ...

    thats why oscar makes the money .. hes willing to fight anybody ...****ing anybody!
     
  10. KhanB

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    Well thanx for listening. I had to defend my boy. Jones beat Hops but i truly think Hops got better from it and mightve been Jones in a rematch before Tarver did but we'll never know.
     
  11. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Either way he's one of the most entertaining fighters out there.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Already 3 pages, nice. Hopefully it lasts a couple of weeks and becomes filled with classic material by the end of it's run.:good
     
  13. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It would have been nice to see that fight made, but Jones was so incredibly fast in his prime he was tough to beat. Hopkins was more of a guy that wore his opponents down. Those fights against Echols and Robert Allen, were ugly grueling fights, almost street fights. I dont think he would have ever had a chance to drag Jones into that type of fight, he was simply too fast, and too elusive.
    Tarver is a huge man with long long arms. He doesnt lead, he counterpunched Jones, and thats why he was able to catch him. Who knows though its unfortunate it didnt happen.
     
  14. dave82

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    No shame losing to Roy Jones I think.
     
  15. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Definitely no shame losing to that version of Roy Jones.