Oscar De La Hoya VS Antonio Margarito ///// who wins????????

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Margarito would stand in front of Oscar also with no defense

    Also Oscar started cutting down to 150 too late in his career and started swelling in the Forbes fight which usually never happens to Oscar
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  2. Blizz42

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    Margarito isn't in Dlh's class. He'd beat him just like he did vargas. Dlh would out smart him and knock his ass out!
     
  3. Leon

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    iron chinned heroes exist in boxing
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    good post but margarito of the cotto fight would beat oscar past sturm.
     
  5. Blizz42

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    Body shots would do Margarito in.
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Will Oscar be willing to clinch and hug antonio the same way Mosley did?
     
  7. Arcane

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    Unless he (or his former trainer) admit it I guess we'll never know for sure.

    Roidsley (lol I just like that name) is guilty of his own juicing but he came clean played ignorant but admitted his wrongs atleast but Margarito still denies any wrong doing to this day.
     
  8. Blizz42

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    Dlh didn't duck Margarito. He saw no money in a fight with Margarito. He saw money in a fight with Cotto or Pacquiao.
     
  9. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    i'm not about your prediction. i think de la hoya's chin would have held up against margarito. i'm just glad someone else remembers that quote. "I want to fight the best and the winner of Cotto/Margarito will be the best. It'll be a great fight but we all know Miguel is going to win."....A few weeks later, Tony won. Oscar: "I want to fight Pacquiao". This is the fight everyone wants to see." Meanwhile Tony is doing everything he can to call Oscar out...Personally, I'm glad Oscar ducked him. I didn't like that fight for Margarito anymore than I liked the Mosley fight. I told my wife that Mosley's chin was too good for Tony to wear out and Shane's own power might finally crack Tony's chin. And...:verysad
     
  10. RingKing

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    I'll add my two cents, and apologies to the TS since this isn't about the wraps.

    Margarito wasn't known to have one shot KO power. He did have a few good ones, but most of his wins were of the accumalation type stoppages.

    S. Martinez was accumalation
    Antonio Diaz ditto
    Cotto ditto-I don't remember Cotto saying that AM was a big puncher.
    Lujan ditto
    Cintron x2 ditto although 1st fight was Cintron losing it mentally, and was caught with a good bodyshot in the 2nd. Cintron was even quoted after their 2nd fight as saying that Margarito wasn't a big puncher. He just wore you down with his toughness.
    Williams-started the fight too late and didn't have enough power to make it a momentum changer.
    Golden Johnson was brought in to give Margarito a warm-up, not to win. Remember, Margarito fought him after the Williams loss. Arum wasn't going to lose one of his cash cows, at least with the hispanics, so soon.
    Against Mosley, and without his "wraps," he caught him with a right hand that slightly buckled Mosley, made him back up, and hold. I can't remember what round. It was somewhere around the 3 thru 5 round.

    Anyhow, not enough for me to say that he definitely used wraps throughout his career. That would be a lot of trainers and commission that he fooled.
     
  11. horst

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    Margarito has a **** defence when he fights accomplished guys like Pac, Cotto, Mosley etc, but in general his defence was not as bad as Mayorga's, Mayorga has more or less the most non-existent defence I've ever witnessed in boxing, I swear there was one round in the Trinidad fight where he forgot how to use a guard and got treated like a pinata for 3 minutes.

    I disagree about making 150lbs being a cut which would prove detrimental to Oscar, I think he was at his best at 135 and 140, he always looked to me a little on the small side for 154. I can't see how 150 was a problem for a guy who started winning world titles at 130, unless he himself ****ed up the weight-making process. This wasn't Roy Jones cutting 20lbs of raw muscle in a number of months following the Ruiz fight. Not at all.
     
  12. Blizz42

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    Yes he would. Dlh has a chin also. It's absurd to think dlh ducked an inferior fighter in Margarito.:lol: Mathematically Margarito didn't have enough skill to beat a fighter like dlh. Money talked when it came to dlh.
     
  13. RingKing

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    That is the best statement one can make, IMO.

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  14. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    to add one more thing about margarito's defense, noone has ever claimed that he's willie pep. but emmanuel steward said during after the second cintron fight and during the cotto fight that he was suprised just how many punches margarito catches with his gloves....just saying. don't believe it would have made a difference against de la hoya who probably had more power than mosley. on that, i think atleast part of the stoppage of tony by mosley was his mental...alright, go ahead and tell me how delusional i am
     
  15. RingKing

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    In boxing, a lot of fighters aren't supposed to "mathematically" (never heard that term in boxing before :?) beat their opponents, but they do because sometimes heart, determination, hunger, and other factors trump skill and speed. Margarito may not have world class technique, but he had world class heart, chin, determination, and toughness. DLH couldn't even knock out Miguel Angel Gonzalez yet people are saying he would have knocked out the Margarito who fought Cotto. Pretty amusing, if you ask me.