Oscar de la Hoya vs Felix Trinidad - Comparisons

Both were genuine ATG in my humble opinion. Trinidad could have been a serious legend had he been managed correctly spent too much time defending against low class guys on Don King Bills when he eventually stepped up his power was frightenuing.

 

not seen a great deal of Oscars carrer but i seen trinidads. he was great fun to watch, until he ran into B-hop.

cant remember how i scored it but it was defo a couple of rounds to oscar in their fight

 

thats a very tough one.

First of all you can look at there fight which I think De La Hoya won personally. i think most agree with that right? Both were in there primes then to. When looking at Trinidads overall resume people will say "he was the first man to beat ODH" when really it should be the other way round.

I wouldn't say Trinidad beat the common opponents more convincingly. There pretty even in that respect. Trinidad maybe quicker a few times but DLH generally beat the better version of the fighter.

In the end I would have to favoure Oscar as he has more top level fighters on his record even if he lost a few more. Its only really Pacquiao that properly dominated him as well, Trinidad got dicked on 3 times.

 

They're so closely matched (both reaped the rewards of great left hands too) that I have the opportunity to do something I never do; I rank Oscar higher based on his fight with Trinidad. Awful choice in the championship rounds but I think he proved himself Titos superior that night.

Trinidad was the more destructive puncher and better suited for 160. De La Hoya was lucky enough to be a pup and tear through a few lower weight divisions.

Tito was the only man to conclusively beat Pea IMO. But Oscar faced a better version (Tito faced a better version of Campas) and I think Oscar wouldve lost to Winky and Tyo wouldve smashed Sturm. Tito mightve appeared to deal with some fighters easier, but that's because he was a K.O artist and had that to fall back on. DLH clearly deserved 2nd Shane fight IMO, but with 'win' over Sturm and offering little against B-Hop, i don't take his run at 160 very seriously at all.

Dunno' why I'm doing this, already said they're essentially tit-for-tat Oscar, probs between 80/90, Tribidad somewhere in the ten that follow.

 

Like Rob says, Oscar won the fight with Tito in reality, even if it wasn’t that way on the judge’s cards. I think he sought out as many challenges (though was less formidable in his campaign at 160).

It’s hard to compare them simply on performances as they were very different fighters. Tito was a murderous puncher even up at MW (he nearly took Joppy’s head off!). Oscar had serious pop in his left hook but that diminished from WW and up.

That discrepancy forced them to fight differently – Oscar was happy to pile up points with the jab and use lateral movement to find angles for his left-hook. Tito tried to land the left hook off of counters, which meant he would often stand right in front of his opponent. The result though was that Trinidad would be more likely to score a knockout because he was so offence minded. Oscar’s more cautious approach meant he didn’t force stoppages as often, especially at 147 and beyond.

I think they belong together, but you can make an argument that Tito achieved more at 160. You can also make the argument Rob makes that Oscar fought better versions of the same opponents in many cases and won. For me, looking at Oscar’s overall success across the weight-classes and some of his limitations, I’d rank him higher. But not by much.

 

flea who won the "event" in the tito-oscar fight?

 

Don King.

 

don kink is the devil though , did you factor this in

 

Two exceptional fighters, DLH quicker more skill with Trinidad stronger with a bigger punch, his left hook is a frightening thing when landed cleanly.. By preference I prefer Trinidad but on accomplishments you have to favor DLH... Both HOF's though.. Prospects should br studying these fighters no doubt..

 

I favour DLH. But Trinidad is going to remembered for a long time to come as well.

 

Felix was a monster at welterweight and went on a historic run at 154. Oscar was something else at 140, one of the best ever at that weight, which he left far too early. DLH also has perhaps fought the stiffest competition since Ali. He fought everyone apart from Winky and Vernon (i don't blame him). Impressive for someone who could make millions fighting bums. Plus he laid the blueprint on how to beat a Trinidad who was just a machine at that time. IMHO he boxed his head off for most of the fight and won it clearly. I like Trinidad more, but i have to say Oscar ranks slightly higher.

 

It don't matter I'm still scarred from almost seeing DLH's man tool at the weigh in

(I go for DLH anyway coz I was a huge fan of his till he went mental. I always thought Tito was there for the taking. An accident waiting to happen)

 

I had it around 8-4 DLH, Rob. People always make it seem like Oscar "ran" the second half of the fight, but the cycling only really started around the 10th.

I don't really blame Oscar for doing it either. The type of pressure a prime Trinidad put on was ridiculous, Felix was like Jason he never stopped coming plus he had the power to put your lights out at anytime. All that incredible work and constant movement to keep Trinidad off and outbox in those 9 rounds meant Oscar was gassed and he also had massive blisters on his feet, I don't know about you but in that state with only 3 rounds to go against a killer like Tito, i'm not taking any chances.

Oscar put on a clinic and was jobbed IMO. Btw this was the first fight Oscar displayed what would become his achilles heel, and that's stamina problems late in big fights. Before this he was known as a great finisher late on.