Oscar De La Hoya vs. Juan Manuel Marquez at LW

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  1. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    The non-prime match-up. The DLH that blew away Ruelas vs. the Marquez that stopped Diaz. Who gets it?
     
  2. teeto

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    This fight would deliver in terms of action. Oscar has the strength advantage no doubt. Marquez i would say is the better combination puncher. Oscar has better footwork by a long way, but is far from what we'd describe as a wizard. He clearly has a better jab, his jab is genuine great. It goes without saying that a great boxer utilising great footwork has an advantage over Marquez imo, i say it all the time. But it must be said also that a mere good set of feet don't do the trick, because he has heart and keeps throwing his combos whenever his man is in range. You need to really have quality feet to offset him. So i reckon this would have exciting moments. I defo lean towards Oscar though, Marquez was far fresher at 126 and even 130, Oscar had a size advantage at 135 but the weight draining didn't affect his own effectiveness as a fighter much. Oscar to get clocked with combos that are better than his own, but take a decision on points through his good jab and very fast punches in bunches.
     
  3. Xplosive

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    DLH by mid round TKO. Too big, too fast, too powerful for JM at 135.
     
  4. BENNY BLANCO

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    I'm surprise you think this fight goes to a decision, I see an mid round stoppage personally for Oscar.
     
  5. teeto

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    I was thinking so as well, think i just got a bit carried away with stating Marquez has heart. I've been knocking Marquez quite a bit lately (nothing i don't see fit though) and thought i'd give him a break, haha. He is a warrior, but yeah Oscar would have too much firepower in all likelihood.
     
  6. BENNY BLANCO

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    It's crazy how underrated he has become since losing to Floyd, it seems like people forget that he fought two weight classes where he doesn't belong against an ATG.
     
  7. teeto

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    Yeah it's **** when people rate fighters predominantly at weights they were not at their best at. You'd think Roberto Duran never fought below 154 with the amount of hypothetical match-ups you see of him on here.
     
  8. anarci

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    Oscar has every advantage here except for experience. I think Marquez is crafty enough to survive a big scare early. He fights his way back into it and by the 5th round is comfortable and fighting ODLH on even terms even winning some rounds, Oscar steps it up though and shows his Physical Superiorty and stops Marquez in 9 rounds.
     
  9. lefthook31

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    Marquez has probably better overall skills, but DLH speed and power is the bigger factor. DLH by decision.
     
  10. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whos that in your avi with Mustafa?
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Some kid hes training. Dont know his name.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    Oscar by decision, he has massive size advantages. His heght/reach/jab combination would be hard for Marquez, I think at times Marquez would hit Oscar very clean counters and leads much like Quartey did. Oscar may well look clueness at times like he did in that fight, but Marquez doesnt have quite the same defense so he'll get hit more
     
  13. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Oscar is a legit great. JMM is not. I am not sure why people think JMM is great.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because he beat the stuffing out of Pacquaio twice who beat the stuffing out of your boy Oscar, and dominated at featherweight for years
     
  15. horst

    horst Guest

    :lol: I genuinely cannot work out why you always say that - it can only be because either:

    (a) you are an immature, biased, petty fanboy ****** who is stuck on playground mode with the "I love Floyd so I hate Pac" mentality

    or

    (b) you do not understand boxing at all and thus have no concept or clue of how to score a boxing match correctly

    There can be no other explanation, because even Dinamita's own mother knew those fights were close as hell - both of them. It simply is not a legitimate possibilty that any sane boxing fan could seriously believe either fight was a schooling.