Oscar de la hoya vs Tito Trinidad smh

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  1. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar had already beat him you really think Tito won?
     
  2. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    I already said I had it 7-5 Trinidad or would be fine with a draw. Trinidad offered the guy a rematch 7 different times yet Oscar denied and instead wanted to fight Lightweight Mosley and Trinidad's leftovers.. wtf does that tell you?
     
  3. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares he beat him thats all that matters.

    we should not even be talking about this If they had done the right thing in 1999.

    Oscar took him to school
     
  4. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    So he beat him yet refused a rematch and instead wanted to fight in his shadow? :patsch Okay man, you're right.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    DLH disagrees with you, he thinks he won the first nine! :nut
     
  6. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whatever he says but i know one thing he was robbed
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was rooting for Tito and I only gave him rounds 4, 10, 11 and 12. Oscar put on a masterful display of boxing, only marred by him gassing in the late rounds. It was not a difficult fight to score with very many close rounds, the only close rounds were the rounds Tito won. No way did Tito earn enough for a draw let alone win.

    How Lederman gave Tito the 5th round I'll never know. Oscar dominated that round even had Tito legs stiffen with a 3 punch combo. Some people will just ignore the shots a fighter is taking as long as they are the one moving forward. Some of the judges score cards were baffling for some rounds, Oscar lost some of his most dominant rounds where he threw more, landed more total punches and power punches yet seemed to be penalised for boxing off the back foot.

    As for why there was never a rematch from my memory at the time Don King and Tito wanted a 50/50 split in the rematch which with Oscar being the bigger draw was never going to happen. Once it was clear Tito had become a bigger draw and was earning around the $10 million mark for each fight it was clear while they would have earned more to face Oscar they were making very good money in their own right and did not need the rematch. Any negotiations after this time was simply posturing and PR.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lederman is an idiot, of that we agree.

    I just saw the 5th round though and like many rounds in that fight, DLH mainly just sticks out the jab while on backtrack mode.
    The great majority of those jabs are not finding the target and a great many more just graze Tito and are not really effective.

    I think DLH landed 3 clean shots in that 5th round. So did Tito.
    But then you factor in aggression and who is coming foward attempting to make the fight and I can see why the judges scored for Trinidad.

    To much running and jabbing while on the move, with the majority of jabs not really being effective.

    In DLH were' talking about a welterweight with exellent power.
    So timid was DLH to unleach power, I dont think there was a point in the fight when Trinidad was hesitant to follow and try to unleach his.

    Great counterpunchers have the aggressor thinking twice about mixing it, and I did'nt see that here with Trinidad.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tito won the 4th round.
     
  10. ElJaguar

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    Trinidad's "offer" for an immediate rematch was pretty unrealistic. He was demanding the fight be made in Puerto Rico and that he received the same cut Oscar got for their first fight.
     
  11. divac

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    Actually Trinidad and Don King said before the first fight that when Tito won, DLH the purses for the rematch would be reversed.

    After the fight in the post fight press conference, Don King was yelling it up on the stage about the rematch being 60/40 in Tito's favor.
    Bob Arum was looking like he was about to pass out. :lol:

    For months the Trinidad's insisted that if DLH wanted a rematch he'd have to get the lesser share.
    The Trinidad's eased up on that and publicly made it known that Tito would fight for a 50/50 split.

    DLH did'nt want the fight. In order to get rid of any talk of a Trinidad rematch DLH insisted that Trinidad would have no more than the lesser share of a 70/30 split.
    The fight was never made because of it.

    I think since Trinidad allready had a victory over DLH and then late on went on to lose to Mosley, a 50/50 split was the fair thing to do.

    DLH did'nt care about avenging anything though, from the beggining he was all about the Benjamin's.
     
  12. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    NEEd we say anymore?!?! / thread... Thank You!!
     
  13. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:Higher p4p and atg deservedly so... because we all know he went to win all of his big fights after this!... Oh wait....:rofl Buttt, he did beat Vargas AND Mayorga... Ohh wait again!! Those were Trinidad's leftovers, but of course some clowns will look the other way when presented real facts!!
     
  14. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol: but he Tito to school to :patsch

    Tito was not on Oscars level.
     
  15. GoodOldBoy

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    Oscar actively sought a rematch..... Trinidad did not.

    I don't see it as Trinidad ducking anyone, I see it more as Trinidad trying to make his own legacy, nothing really wrong with that.