Oscar De La Hoya was overrated

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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Not overrated. Where do you see people rating it too high?
     
  2. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    I can see you attempting to shape the battlefield (that's what they call it now, right?) here so I'll just cut through it:

    Any reasonably youthful version of Oscar De La Hoya still hung over and wearing the fishnets and heels outta the hotel into the limo to the MGM with the hookers and a qp of Bolivian marching powder waiting for him to make it an early night and come back would decide at his whim what happens to the-best-so-far Tim Tzyu on that night. If he wanted to make Tim dance the hokey pokey and turn himself about for 12 rounds, that's what would happen. At any point after round 4 or so that Oscar decides Tim needs a nap, that's what would happen.

    At this point there is no comparison.

    Let's have Tim do some things and maybe he turns out to be the ****. Not today.
     
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  3. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    He is actually underrated. He had a better career than Canelo yet nobody talks about him as an ATG like Canelo.
     
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  4. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fought everyone and won some of them. Always a huge attraction, win or lose. I wish today's guys had that mentality.
     
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  5. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I just put him on ignore
     
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  6. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is Oscar over rated? Who (nut huggers excluded) has ever called ODH a top 10 all time fighter? Or even top 20?
    He fought a lot of PRIME top and Hall of Fame fighters and aside from the Pac fight (which was a completely shot ODH) and the Bhop fight (which he was winning until getting brutally stopped) he showed well and nearly won most of those fights and that includes a totally juiced Mosely which in both fights he arguably won (funny you don't mention that but mention the Sturm "loss") many believe he was robbed vs Trinidad.

    Mosely
    JCC
    Bhop
    Trinidad
    Pernell
    Gatti
    Mayweather
    Pacquiao
    Camacho

    ALL hall of famers. I can't stand ODH the person, but to say a guy with a resume like that is overrated when he came close to winning every one of those fights (Except Bhop and Pac...and I personally felt the Mayweather fight wasn't as close as some did)
     
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  7. Nigel_Benn

    Nigel_Benn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The 'greatest shape of my life' guy held leads over Mosley (1st fight) and Trinidad and blew those leads by gassing out. Was level with Mayweather after about 6-7 rounds and gassed out and stopped throwing his jab because Mayweather, hardly a big puncher, kept popping him with counter right hands. Was easily outboxing Mosley in the second fight, but the 'greatest shape of my life' guy gassed again making it closer than it needed to be.
     
  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    De la hoya was the top 3 PPV draw behind Tyson and Holyfield. That shows he was must watch television win or lose.
     
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  9. Nigel_Benn

    Nigel_Benn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I forgot to add: the 'greatest shape of my life' guy was beating Sturm after 5 rounds and then gassed out earlier than usual and got beaten to a bloody pulp by a left jab from a B-level fighter. Then the 'greatest shape of my life' guy is fighting well against B-Hop and then gasses out before being hit with a left hook to the body which clearly didn't hurt that much given he pounded the canvass afterwards.
     
  10. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH beats Floyd prime for prime. Hell their fight shouldve been a draw when it did happen. This is considered an "unpopular take" and lots of "certain" fans make it this racial thing. Floyd is an ATG but he's just not as good as some make him out to be.

    DLH was the goods and he ducked nobody.

    And for the fans of "only certain levels of melanin" I have Crawford beating DLH and Floyd prime for prime. Crawford also beats Manny prime for prime. And Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, and Trinidad.

    The funniest thing is that these melanin-sensitive fans have spent so much time tying Crawford w Top Rank that theyve missed out on an ATG fighter who SONNED their DemiGod in Spence. He would've done the same to most WW in history, too.
     
  11. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He ducked Vernon Forrest, Jose Luis Lopez, and he chose PacMan even though he had promised Margarito the fight.
     
  12. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Nah you’re just wrong bro.

    He’s under rated if anything, fought hard all the way through too, didn’t need to be coddled to 30-0 before fighting a live body like most do nowadays….
     
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  13. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    De La Hoya only lost to elite level opponents and beat some elite level opponents too. De La Hoya was one of the best in his era and is rated accordingly.
     
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  14. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have to be a casual. DLH had zero advantages over Manny Pacquiao going into that fight.
     
  15. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't say this often but that's a bad opinion lol