Oscar Dela Hoya's Legacy - Help

I agree with most of what you said but a lot of these were champions, not contenders.
He unified two divisions, lightweight and super welterweight.
His first fight moving to welter was against the linear welter champ and p4p #1 Whitaker.


The thing with DLH is that beating him catupulted opponents to stardom. Therefore we remember who he lost to rather than who he beat although often the greatest thing they ever did in hindsight was beat DLH. That definately says something. When the one greatest win on many of those fighters' resume is DLH, that says something about DLH.

 

What people don't remember is that all his fights were big fights. The champions he destroyed are forgotten because he put a often destructive check on their careers.

 

Bull****, Vernon was trailing Oscar by several years. Compare their boxrec timelines. Vernon is hitting welter with Mosley while Oscar's leaving it as Vernon is making his mark. They are not of the same timeline.

 

Use it

http://boxrec.com/

 

Bama is combing boxrec while scratching his head and looking for a shovel to dig himself out of the pile of bull**** he spewed.

 

His close losses to Mosley and his close loss to Mayweather past his prime do more for his legacy then a lot of fighters best wins imo.

 

There's a thin line between sarcasm and stupidity; thread carefully my friend!

 

took on everyone = respect

lost to every elite fighter he ever faced = not an ATG

 

I hate you but must agree.

 

All due respdect to oscar in the ring, and his financial dealings outside ,in the tito fight he was winning the fight but for some reason later in the fight he got on his bike, some say he felt to power. he may have actually given bhop a peek in how to beat teto.

 

Without insulting you , you really need to research this subject and watch his fights not just look at his box rec record

De La Hoya was a thunderous puncher in the lower divisions before filling out and heading to WW , he has some solid wins a LW and at JrWW , as well as IMHO wins over Tito (in his absloute prime) and Shane Mosley again in his prime , he was past his best when Floyd beat him and shot when Pacquiao beat him , TKO win's over Vargas and Mayorga , and excellent fights with top fighters like Whittaker & Quartey

He fought everybody worth fighting from 130 - 154 (barring Winky) including an undisputed MW title fight with Benard Hopkins who's obviously now the worlds #1 LHW , almost every fight he fought in was top quality action and he laid averything on the line in most of his fights

For me as a De La Hoya fan , i would of liked to see him spend more time on his fighting than promoting brand De La Hoya , but thats easy for me to say ................. either way a modern great for me

 

Way to expose yourself as someone who just started to watch boxing as well.atsch

 

just for the record:


oscar resume was made up of only winning records


not one of his opponents had a losing record, from his debut to his retirement




this is a feat in pro boxing

 

not read any other posts so If I repeat something I apologise.

First off you need to re-define you're definition of what a "marquee" name is. You also need to watch a lot of his fights.

Now starting off by the year end 95 he's established himself as the premiere LW with victories over a host of top lightweights and super feathers including Bredahl, Paez, Molina, Hernandez, Ruelas and Leija.

He then beat a faded Chavez on cuts and secured a great victory over Gonzalez so by this point he was considered a P4P superstar.

He got lucky against Whittaker but did fight very well even though he did not deserve a decision in my opinion.

His WW run is very subjective due to the close fights he had with elites. IMO, however, he beat the following guys after his loss Pea: Camacho, Rivera, Chavez, Carr, Quartey, Trinidad and Coley.

He did lose to Mosley in the first, that isn't debatable IMO.

He then went on a run of victories against Gatti, Castillejo, Vargas, Campas and Mosley.

At this point his legacy had been secured and he made a jump to MW which proved ill fated having a poor showing vs Sturm (lost IMO) and fighting competitive with hopkins before being stopped for the first time in his career.

Pat his best he provided a good knockout over Mayorga and a competitive showing vs Floyd.

Drained and shot he lost in lopsided fashion to Pacman.

 

He's easily one of the top 11/12 P4P fighters of the last 20 years. He wasn't a very disciplined boxer which made him beatable against the greats.

He badly exposed Tito, and Mosely said himself that Oscar won the rematch. Quartey beat him, but based on how Oscar almost killed him in the 12th I would've picked Oscar to win the rematch. Oscar said he under estimated Quartey and I think he would've boxed him smarter in a rematch.

And unlike many, I was impressed with Oscar in the Hopkins fight. If they were the same size I think Oscar could out box Hopkins. He was very focused that night. Oscar at his very best is hard to beat, in his era