Oscar DelaHoya vs. John "The Beast" Mugabi

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    12 rounds. Super Welterweights.
     
  2. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    a guy as sharp and refined as Oscar would beat Mugabi, but it would be very tense. No way can Oscar take a big Mugabi punch like Hagler did. Marvin was a big strong guy, and Oscar was not. Oscar would use his jab and hope to swell up Mugabi and then start to land his left hook and stop Mugabi in about round 7. Similar to how Hearns would fight Mugabi, only Hearns would stop John in 3.
     
  3. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Man, dangerous fight for Oscar.......
     
  4. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like DLH but he's out of his element here. Mugabi's a bigger, stronger man and hits harder than anyone Oscar ever went up against. The Golden Boy gives a good fight but the Beast will beat him down.
     
  5. MRBILL

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    DLH would be shittin' bricks for (4) rds at most, then Mugabi would tire a bit and fade... Mugabi also writes letters telling all in attendance that his bombs are coming... DLH survives the early rds by boxing and then drowns Mugabi late for the TKO win...
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  6. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See DLH-Mayorga. Mugabi is full of holes and DLH with his feet, reach and handspeed would exploit them. If hit well, DLH has a good chin, though even so it would creak a fair bit here.
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins knocked Oscar out by bypassing his chin, and John's body shots left Hagler pissing blood. This is an extremely dangerous prospect for a former super featherweight to confront, at Mugabe's natural weight. John actually has a one inch reach advantage here, and De La Hoya is taller by two inches at most, so Oscar would be wholly dependent on his mobility and hand speed to hit without being hit. Mugabe could be deceptive. He had a knack for slipping and countering, magnifying the impact of his shots in the process. It's been suggested that John might fade as the bout progressed, but those body shots might prove more than an equalizer. He did stop Hard Rock Green in the tenth and final round, and James was known for his toughness and conditioning at the time.

    Pre-Hagler, The Beast was just that, too much monster for Oscar to overcome.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Oscar would have to get Mugabi out of there by the 8th, otherwise it's bad news for him.

    His legs would start to let him down and he'd fade, as he did in his three earliest losses.

    DLH was fundamentally very sound, Mugabe not so much.

    Interesting fight :hey
     
  9. lora

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    Mugabi would obliterate him sooner or later, even if he's led a bit of a dance early on.

    I'm no big fan of the beast really, but ODLH above 147 is one of the most overestimated fighters i can think of.He had a solid enough fight against damaged goods Vargas and that's the only time he was remotely impressive.He's basically a competent textbook boxer-puncher without notable power above welter.Not particularly fast anymore, not strong, just ok defensively, dodgy 12 round stamina and without the firepower or physical advantages he had at lighter weights.The lack of finesse to go with the solid fundamentals is a big drawback to him now.


    The better second tier big punchers who are comfortable at 154-160 would mostly all walk right through him eventually.Tonna, Roldan, Jackson, Sibson, Mugabi, Hart,Obel, Fernandez, Benn etc...most of those would be horrific to behold.
     
  10. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is an interesting fight. Oscar wanted absolutely nothing to do with Trinidad in the last 4 rounds of their fight. I'd say Mugabi is even a bigger puncher at 154. This is a guy who stood toe to toe with Hagler for 11 rounds. I wouldn't rule of ODLH sprinting his way to an ugly win, but I tend to think he'd get overpowered.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    Mugabi would destroy Oscar.
    It would be nasty, brutish, and short.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    How I see it Shake, Mugabi would be the most physically imposing challenge DLH would face none the less but technically he's a level above
     
  13. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd give Oscar a few more rounds but still in a losing cause to Mugabi. His boxing skills could carry him through the fight, especially his jab. The only way he wins is if he builds a sizeable lead in the early to mid rounds and runs away like he did against Trinidad. Oscar's still gotta hope that he doesn't get shafted by the judges. Mugabi just might have him running though.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oscar didn't run against Hopkins, Vargas or Mayorga