Oscar/GBP on the drug testing negotiations

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  1. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    From the Bible:

    Oscar De La Hoya gives his take on Manny Pacquiao’s refusal to take Olympic-style random blood tests, which is threatening to scuttle a pending fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on March 13. Bob Arum, Pacquiao’s promoter, has said that the fighter is willing to take blood tests three months before the fight, 30 days before the fight and after the fight but not random tests. Pacquiao doesn’t want to be tested close to fight because, he says, it weakens him. The sides appear to be considering a compromise that would involve a cutoff date for testing – maybe 3-5 days before the fight – to solve the impasse. De La Hoya has fought two fighters found to have taken performance enhancing drugs – Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas. He also fought Pacquiao.

    First of all, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency agreed that they won’t take blood from the fighters 48 hours before the fight as some people seem to think. They’re going to take only a few tablespoons through random testing in the three months leading up to the fight.

    If Pacquiao, the toughest guy on the planet, is afraid of needles and having a few tablespoons of blood drawn from his system, then something is wrong. The guy has tattoos everywhere; he’s tattooed from top to bottom. You’re telling me he’s afraid of needles?

    And the idea that urine tests can detect HGH [Human Growth Hormone] is wrong. I talked to Travis Tygart, CEO of the USADA. He testified before Congress that anyone who says HGH can be detected by a urine test is mistaken. It can only be detected by a blood test.

    So you have to do the blood work. If Pacquiao doesn’t want to do this and risk a possible $40 million payday because he’s afraid of needles or believes he’ll be weakened by blood tests, then that raises question marks.

    Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself, “Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.” I’m not saying yes or no [about whether Pacquiao might be taking performance-enhancing drugs]; I’m just saying that now people have to wonder: “Why doesn’t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal.”

    A lot of eyebrows have been raised. This is not good at all.

    I believe Mayweather wants to do the right thing, to get tested properly. He’s not doing it to harass Pacquiao; that’s garbage. I would say to Pacquiao: “Do the test. Do it because it’s only a couple of tablespoons. Needles don’t hurt. Just look away when they put the needle in your arm.” He’ll probably lose more blood in the fight than the blood being drawn for the test.

    And do it because we as a sport are in a unique situation. We can paint ourselves as the cleanest sport by doing this test. Why don’t you want to do it?

    C’mon. It’s only a little bit of blood. If you have nothing to hide, then do the test.
     
  2. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't DLH say before that Pacquaio's punches were weak? This guy is one of the biggest douche bags in boxing. He's probably bitter that he got the **** beat out of him by a smaller fighter.
     
  3. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This looks like the best case scenario. Hopefully this happens.
     
  4. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That DLH comment was some dumb ****.... DLH just talks like Mayweather's spokesperson and if he was Pacquiao's, he'd say the same **** as Arum anyways..
     
  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I was about to say the exact same thing.
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HGH doesn't boost strength nor mass, and in fact raised levels of HGH reduces stamina and raises fatigue.

    HGH is for repair, not for performance since it increases the amount of connective tissue only.
     
  7. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    I thought he said Pacquiao's punches doesn't hurt before the Cotto fight.

    LOL

    Didn't he knock out Vargas, great help the PED did for him. I thought PEDs would make you super strong, indestructable chin, and incredible stamina.

    No wonder Mayweather calls Oscar a ***.
     
  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    When did Tygart testify? Cuase HGH can be detected in urine. Just cause his company is behind the time doesn't mean they are correct.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-07-22-hgh-urine-test_N.htm
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  10. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    I would applaud GBP if they would hold this type of testing for ALL of their fighters, but until then STFU.
     
  11. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least this issue will make people more knowledgeable on the matter now... Thanks for the info on the urine test to detect HGH !
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    oscar is just a mouthpiece for floyd.
     
  13. Ech110

    Ech110 Active Member Full Member

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    yup he sure did. now Pacs a power puncher on level with Mosley? ODLH says what ever he needs to. turning into a Floyd nut hugger.
     
  14. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exaclty
     
  15. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ****, Oscar. Floyd's supposed to be your puppet, not the other way round. Were the fishnets so tight they squashed your balls? You talking as though you do not want this fight as much as Floyd doesn't. What happened to your love of the benjamins?