How do you describe his style of boxing then? With his style, I thought when he came out of the olympics that he would have a successful but limited one in the pros and I was not wrong. Hoya does not fight like Margarito. Hoya fights with the left foot forward and closes the gap with mini-hops but always with the lead foot, and very limited head movement. What made him successful is that he has fast hands with accuracy, (especially the left hybrid cross that starts low and since he has the left foot as lead does not have to travel far- sneaky actually) and power in those divisions he was fighting. Margarito just throws punches with no accuracy. No disrespect to Hoya, he was successful. That is just my dissection of how he fights. But because he does have a plodding foot speed, speedster or slick fighters will always have some success against him, those that bang with him or tries to jab with him losses because he he quite Margaritoesque in stature at 5'10..
Oscar was a classical boxer. He had a very sharp, VERY fast and painful telephone pole jab, a monstrous left hook, threw in terrific, accurate combinations and had a great chin. Would a slick speedster have some success against him? Sure. Exactly who DOESN'T a slick speedster have at least 'some' success against? You can always find SOMETHING a boxer does 'wrong', or doesn't do like you think he should. Fact is, in his prime, ODLH was a beast. He beat Trinidad at Trini's best, Mosely too although he got robbed both times. Don't let that pretty face fool you, Oscar was a bad man.
I just dissected how he fights! I am not saying that he won't be successful. Oscar upper body including hand speed and offensive repertoire is great. He is a textbook fighter yet he has underdeveloped foot movement and head movement. If he had those, he could have achieved more but then he would bve the perfect fighter if it happens. I have seen Oscar's career starting at the Olympics to pro and he never actually changed a bit when it comes to style. He always has this peculiar stance like a semi-hunch (upper back, hard to describe but you might know what I mean) with both hands a little forward and the lead foot way too wide. Heck he was successful with it. When pitting one style to another style, I tend to account as well how well a fighter closes the distance, like the Prime Tyson would do with his bobbing head movement into equation. If Oscar is to face a fighter who does not slug it out with him like Gatti or Tito and instead he has to close the distance himself, how do you think he would do? In his prime, Pac is a lightweight. But if in terms of pound for pound match-up (meaning that both are natural 147), and both in prime, he would lose.
Oscar always reminded me of a medieval, mechanical battering ram, in his prime. Once his base gets set, and he's all lined up, look out. He's gonna smash you to bits. But not very easy to maneuver and move around. I liked him a lot, though. Everybody wanted to watch his fights. He was the only international, non heavyweight boxer to do that in our home, back in the day.
Napuruhan mo ang tamang term - very mechanical. Tawag ko Robotic. Very successful product of mass media.
*** *** *** well, if thats the case....chavez would have schooled oscar in his prime pernell whitaker would have shut him out hector camacho would have been a different story DLH got beat by a guy who started his career as a pro at 107 pound..... 6 weight divisons below where oscar started..prime or no prime..he got stung to death by a little guy
oscar got his ass kicked by quartey and should of lost and no one thought he beat whitaker...at least the HBO team and most of the country got the crap kicked out of him by sturm he lost to trinidad because he ran like a ***** in the last 3 rounds.... and mosley schooled him the first time
Oscar's ass got a spanking by Floyd. He was clearly dominated from the get-go. The domination of Oscar by Floyd is more precise in that he planned it on every round and decided not to go for the kill as he dominated every possible round he was in. Compare this to Ballquiao who jumped around the ring like an afraid frog and when got hit panics like a girl. Good thing Oscar wasn't in his prime then or we would have a different outcome. Roids or without roids, I give Ballquiao some credit for facing who was once known as the perfect boxer before Floyd came into the picture. :good
this thread = atsch... even though Mayweather would school Pac.. but still..........atschatschatschatsch, come up with something else bruh