Oscar looked shot when he fought floyd

Not shot but past it.

 

he wasent shot but not at the peak either also he had a great size advantage . however agaist manny at 145 he was shot and dained

 

Oscar may have looked shot compared to Floyd, but Oscar wasn't anywhere near shot. He did become shot however once he started trying to lose fight and go back to welterweight.

 

Mosley is just a fast slugger. In fact, Mosley is the one who loses to boxers including Oscar 2.
Hopkins didn't beat Oscar by boxing, he did it by using his size and slugging.
Quartey lost.
Whitaker lost.
Floyd won via split decision vs an old Oscar who was completely flat footed and slow on his punches.

 

As big George said, Oscar was at his best when he boxed on his toes ... flat footed Oscar = ****. Though, he was talented enough to still win and give people a good fight even when flat footed.

 

Mosley can box when he wants too. Look at his fight against Margarito. Anybody would have trouble against Forrest and Winky.

Hopkins dissected Delahoya by using his boxing techniques. Boxing doesn't mean speedy punchers. He used technical defense and his size. Oscar had no answer for Hopkins defense. I saw a look of give up in his face even before Hopkins put him down with a body shot.

Quartey-was a close decision Oscar did not dominate Quartey. You seem to have missed my point. I said boxers give DelaHoya problems. That doesn't mean he lost to them. Quartey gave DelaHoya alot of problems.

Whitaker-ditto what I said about the Quartey. and IMHOP I thought Whitaker won. Oscar got a gift decision by the judges because he was a star and Whitaker wasn't.

Floyd- shot or not I could care less. Even if DelaHoya was in his prime. Mayweather would still give him fits.

 

We could see his speed, timing, and reflexes werent there in the forbes fight. I think mayweather went easy on dlh alah hopkins. How can you trust a fight with that much money involved?

 

Yeah in th forbes fight he looked weak and drained from trying to make 150.

 

I think Oscar and Quartey both fought an even and superb technical fight, actually. He also completely embarrassed Tito in the eyes of virtually everyone. Oscar was fairly slick himself. I don't know what you're talking about with this one-dimensional crap. Oscar isn't slick like Mayweather but I think he's technically one of the better fighters of his era at his best.

 

i'd say he was about 65% of the fighter he was in his prime.....not quite shot, but well past it

 

I still have a problem thinking that was even Oscar at his prime. Although I disagreed with the judging in Oscar vs. Mosley 2, Oscar was starting to slow, and so was Mosley. I think Oscar's prime fight was vs. Mosley in their first battle and I think that was Mosley's prime also.

I always said if Oscar had of fought Tito the way he did vs. Mosley in their first fight, he would've taken Tito out as in KO or TKO. And had he used the strategy he used vs. Tito against Mosley in the 1st fight he would've boxed his way to a UD. Oscar felt the pressure coming off that Tito loss and felt he had to brawl more than box and played right into Mosley's hands.

 

past his best but still world class

 

First of all, Oscar was beating Bernard after 6 rounds as neither man was scoring much at all. But, as always, Oscar started gassing and Bernard started to pick it up. I agree though that Oscar did essentially give up, and believe he would've been TKO'd regardless of that liver shot.

Agree with Quartey assessment; extremely close fight. Oscar was having a lot of problems, but so was Ike.

As for Whitaker, neither of them did much, but I do recall whitakers eye swollen half shut so Oscar was scoring points.

 

He was on the slide but I thought he looked good and worked well with Roach. I actually thought he nicked the fight.

 

I had Oscar down by 2 points I believe. Mayweather's counters were getting in those last few rounds.