Oscar Rivas to sue Eddie Hearn and BBBoC

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  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Rarely for cases of this kind would lawyers work pro bono...

    EDIT: I meant no win/no fee not 'pro bono'
     
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  2. Gymbot

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    That's not the same thing.
     
  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Correct and I was just about to amend that. But you won't get no win/no fee for hugely expensive cases like this with little certainty of winning. No win, no fee is usually only an option when the win is highly likely, which is logical really. No one will work for nothing when the odds are not largely in favour of getting the win. This case is way too risky for no win, no fee. It will never see court, unfortunately...
     
  4. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    How do you know? Are you a legal expert in this particular area?
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Well let's look at the general slant of this conversation. You think 'ambulance chasing' lawyers will rush to offer no win/ no fee. But that offer is only made when the lawyers are pretty certain of winning; no one offers to work for free when the odds are stacked against them. They make that calculation based on similar past cases and base the likelihood of victory on this. How many similar cases to this have there been? How would a lawyer be able to make that calculation to be comfortable they won't be out of pocket? This would appear to be a unique case, so there's nothing to reference.

    They would also make their calculation based on the potential strength of the defence. The law in the UK about patient confidentiality is pretty clear and this situation touches on that aspect and Hearn could reasonably argue he had no right in law to make public Whyte's personal medical record. Rivas' laywers would have to show the fight harmed Rivas in some way, be it financially or medically. Well, career-wise Rivas is likely not harmed by this fight as Whyte is no longer mandatory and if Rivas gets that position and a fight with Wilder, it's hard to argue for damages for financial loss.

    I suppose if Rivas can establish physical injury from the fight he might have a case but it would be incredibly hard to establish injury was a direct results of PEDs as the evidence would only be circumstantial. So far we have heard nothing about any damage caused to Rivas, so it seems unlikely that would form the basis of a case.

    There's no doubt what Hearn et al chose to do was immoral, but actionable? That's much harder to establish. There might be a case but it would be costly in terms of money and time, with little certainty of a positive outcome. Rivas' team are better served focusing on his career going forward and trying to lobby the WBC to get the shot Whyte was lining up.

    This won't end up in court....
     
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  6. Gymbot

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    A simple "no" would have sufficed
     
  7. DoubleJab666

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    Let's chat again in six months time and see how the case is progressing....
     
  8. PIPO23

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    Rivas deserves a fair go. I mean that suave of a man Eddie Hearns was trying all his best to sweep it under the rags. But he FAILED now he has to pay the consequences.
     
  9. Gymbot

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    I expect they will settle out of court, but this isn't going to go away.
     
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  10. DoubleJab666

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    So you don't think it will go to court either.

    I'm not at all in support of what Hearn, Matchroom, the BBBoC and Whyte did. It stinks. I wish all four of them were hauled through the courts and made to pay the price for something truly outrageous - namely, letting a man they knew to be juiced step in the ring and punch another man in the face. So I hope I'm wrong and they are made to answer in court for the decisions they took. But, like you, I doubt that will happen.

    At the very least the fight should be called a N/C by the WBC, but as yet we've not heard that will happen.
     
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  11. Gymbot

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    Probably not. There's clearly a case to answer but Eddie Hearn/Matchroom won't want a public airing of their dirty laundry.
     
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  12. Ilesey

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    lol

    Unlucky Edward.
     
  13. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Hearn should be banned for life from promoting and no Brits ever allow to fight at home again
     
  14. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member Full Member

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    What's so funny? If the shoe was on the other foot you would be screaming blue murder about life time bans and being in support of Rivas being sued.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    I scored the fight for Rivas anyway.
    It was close but I had it 115-114 Rivas.
    So, he deserves something in my book anyway.