oscar...the bitterness never ends

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Shockmaster, Apr 23, 2015.


  1. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    I have never picked against Floyd until this fight, dumba ss. This is just further evidence of how stupid you are. As for other fighters, your picks are so embarrassingly wrong all the time, to keep posting here and lying about them just means you are a troll pure and simple.
     
  2. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Sure you haven't troll. The difference between be and others is that I own up to my picks if I make a wrong pick I can admit I was wrong and give the fighter their due. The same can't be said for people like you.
     
  4. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you kidding me? At the time Floyd was my favorite fighter, I was a big fan, next to Oscar and when Oscar came out of retirement to fight him, I figured Oscar was too far gone to be competitive, but then amazingly, he outboxed Floyd until he starting gassing. I didn't really have a huge favorite in that fight, I leaned toward oscar but didn't really care since I liked Floyd and knew Floyd was the future, and also knew this fight meant very little to oscar in the grand scheme of things. It was more of a glorified sparring match he was supposed to lose at that stage of his career. I thought it was a moral victory for Oscar though, to go up against the p4p#1 fighter and hang in there and actually win 4-5 rounds. And it solidified how damn good oscar was and left no doubt prime oscar would have been too much for Floyd considering floyd had his hands full with that much slower, flat footed version that had totally lost his pop and explosiveness. Floyd is a great fighter, but he's not that great, he's just damn lucky he didn't face some of those beasts in their primes.
     
  5. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This
     
  6. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    whats your opinion of oscar when manny fought him then?
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Oscar always lost when he stepped up that was the story of his career. Quit making excuses got tired not motivated it's all excuses. PBF would always beat any version of Oscar and history of Oscar in big fights suggest this as well. PBF is the better and more complete fighter period.
     
  8. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was sick and completely shot, but that was a beating nonetheless that pac put on him. I don't know where Oscar's power went, but Oscar should have retired after Mayorga. That was his last fight before becoming washed up. Even the damage stevie forbes did to oscar the fight before the Pac one was very unusual.
    The thing about the Floyd fight, was oscar had to solely rely on his ring IQ, his speed had diminished greatly but even worse, he didn't seem to have any pop left in his punches, which is why Roach said he couldn't pull the trigger anymore talking about that fight. Oscar peaked 96-97-2000-01.
     
  9. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lost everytime he stepped up? He was only beaten ONE time during his prime.

    Ruelas - WIN
    Molina - WIN
    ATG Hernandez - WIN (FLoyd's own best claimed victory, an Oscar left over that oscar didn't make a big deal of humiliating and make quit)
    Gonzalez - WIN
    ATG Chavez - WIN
    ATG Chavez - WIN
    ATG Whitaker - WIN
    Quartey - WIN
    ATG Trinidad - WIN (everyone knows oscar won this and was robbed)
    ATG Mosley - LOSS
    Vargas - WIN
    ATG Mosley 2 - WIN (and every non biased fan knows Oscar won this and was robbed)
    Castillejo - WIN
    Mayorga - WIN

    And look at that resume. And here's floyds prime wins:

    Castillo - WIN (although many believe Floyd lost this)
    Castillo - WIN
    Corrales - WIN
    Hernandez - WIN
    .......................? Where the hell are all the other elite, non washed up fighters?:lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I don't know what you're doing by bringing up guys like JCC and Pea Whitaker like that helps your argument. JCC was done Pea Whitaker was past his best still managed to drop clown and outbox him and arguably won. Hernandez, Quartey Vargas were good wins. He lost to a prime Mosley in grand fashion got a gift against Strum and got KTFO by Hopkins. A lot of those so called wins you posted were loses period. Most importantly he lost to PBF and you're still bitter about to this day.
     
  11. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PERNELL WAS RANKED POUND FOR POUND #1 when oscar beat him. The fight was even billed POUND FOR POUND. LOL Thus why Oscar became Pound for pound #1 ahead of other ATGs like Roy Jones.
    And chavez was still extremely active and undefeated for years before Oscar destroyed him and nobody had ever done that to Chavez before, let alone gave him an rematch and did it again.

    And pernell dropped Oscar? LOL did you even watch the fight? It was a slip as pernell hit oscar with his wrist and Oscar put his glove on the canvas lol. It was pernell who was legit stunned and buckled in that fight.
    And hernandez wasn't that great of a win, he was easy work for Oscar even though he was undefeated. I know Floyd makes a big deal of beating Oscar's left over but that is just because he doesn't have anyone else on his resume that is an arguable ATG that wasn't completely washed up. :lol: ALTHOUGH Hernandez was already planning to retire after that fight and at the end of his career.
    And Oscar avenged his loss to Mosley, practically dominating him to a point roided up Mosley couldn't even believe the robbery that took place.
    And yes, Oscar lost to Sturm and Hopkins, but those are irrelevant fights. Oscar didn't belong at that weight and no way effects his resume in the lower weight classes.

    You would be hard pressed to look at Oscar's resume and say any other fighter in history would definitely have went undefeated with those same names. The fact Oscar only truly lost ONE time, to Mosley in their first fight, speaks volumes on how great he was. And only reason we are only having this conversation he is because Oscar was robbed royally vs. Trinidad and Mosley 2. Had those been wins like they should have been -- Its a wrap, nobody would even be mentioned the past 20 years along side Oscar.