Oscar v Pernell

There are fighters who become old or past it (shot in some people's term) earlier than 32 or 31. It all depends on how early they start going pro and the level of competition they faced early on. One perfect example in this era is: Eric Morales. Like Duran, experts can dismiss his last 2 or so losses because that's not a reflection anymore of who he was at his peak. Warriors got burn out, there are battles where the warrior have already gave it all and no more left remaining after those - can happen before reaching mid-30s.

ODLH won against JCC, so he got a couple of wins (not only against sweat pea) against an elite fighter.

Sidenote: ODLH in my eyes and to many, should have won Shane II and Trinidad fight, the rest of his losses are very close or can be contested as well. The only truly convincing losses ODLH has on his resume is his last fight of his career and against Hopkins.

 

My point was compared to DLH vs Pea it was a robbery, people go on about the Whitaker fight but hardly mention the fight with Ike, C'mon everybody knows quartey won that fight, great last round by DLH but Ike basically dogged him for most of the fight particularly those mid rounds, i had it by 2 rounds to Quartey.

I'm just saying Ike beat DLH more clearly then DLH beat Pernell.

 

No dude he was CLOWING he showed great defense when he was doing that but he was playing and showboating when he should have been countering. That is not boxing! That is only half of boxing.

Yey id like to see your scorecard with the Quartey fight I actually had Quartey ahead by one going into the last round. but then Oscar came back and had that big last round which to me made it a one point fight in favor of Oscar. No robbery just a good close fight that went to the right guy. It was closer than the fight with Pernell.

As for Sturm well yey i gave it to Sturm by one or 2 points over an out of shape Oscar.

bottom line Oscar was jobbed out of more bad decisions(Trinidad,MosleyII) than ones that went his way. Sturm was the only one he got where they gave him the benefit of the doubt and that was very close.

Even his losses to May and Mosley I were razor thin. I had May by 2 and Mosley by 1 in the first fight.

I had him beating Tito 117-112 and Mosley II by 116-113 those were bigger injustices than the fight with Sturm

 

Yea, Pernell executed a great dance routine -- should've tried out for "so you think you can dance." atsch

 

I agree 99%. I thought Pea beat Oscar by a point, but it was the closest of fights: Pea had a lot of defensive moments, but next to zero offensive ones. The basis of his scoring was a stiff jab, whereas Oscar had about all the power connects that looked painful.

I can definitely see the argument that Oscar won the fight, even if I disagree.

Had Oscar beating Quartey by a point. No robbery here. Quartey definitely held an edge throughout most of the fight, but you need more than an edge to call a fight a robbery, especially when you suffer a 12th like that.

Oscar beat Tito. Period.

He decisively lost to Hopkins and Shane the first time around. He probably should have been given the decision over Shane in the 2nd fight, and he did receive a bit of a gift in the Sturm fight( I had it 115-113 Sturm).

I'm not even a DLH fan, but he is criminally underrated.

 

Quartey won that fight? How does a guy that gets knocked down more, hit more, and loses the biggest round of the fight by destruction, not to mention the ref almost stopped it, win a fight?

 

You seem to think "putting on a show" means you win a fight. Those famous misses everyone talks about are two sequences of a 12 round fight played over and over again in highlights. People think the whole fight was like this. Oscar DID land on Pernell, repeatedly.

 

Exactly the way I scored it.

6-5 for Quartey going into the 12th.

Easy call for DLH!

 

Yea, I remember pernell's eye swollen half shut at the end, strange Oscar's face was unblemished.

 

Yes, I had the same. Ike was up by one going into the 12. If it wasn't for him almost lying vertically on the ropes to save him from being dropped again, it would have been a 10-7 round for Oscar and could have been stopped. Hell, it was almost stopped anyway. Ike took a fuking beating on those ropes

 

Why was he so frustrated after the fight? Watch the post fight interview....without knowing the outcome, you'd think De La Hoya had just lossed. It was great as far as the name he got to put on his resume, but it was nowhere near one his great performances. Pernell clowned him.

 

Yes indeed. Unlike Whitaker-Chavez. Whitaker-De La Hoya was very even. That is why it was not a great victory for Oscar.

 

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A yound DLH fights a close fight and gets the decision over a ring legend why was that not a great victory?

 

I might slightly disagree with the Quartey comment, but everything else is spot on. Sturm punked De La Hoya. De La Hoya dominated Mosley in the rematch (only ringside observers saw it for Mosley, guess you just had to be there to understand).