Oscar vs. Shane 2 Robbery

For sure. Oscar won this fight.

 

Of course, DLH rigged it so he would lose, stop your bitching then!:nut

 

Never seen this fight .

Now i want to go to youtube and watch it .

But i dont want to risk and waste my time watching a fight thats lackluster .

 

Its not that great a fight at all. Shane was outboxed bad and pretty much had to go for the KO from the 8th round on and was winded.

 

One of the best examples that proves juicing doesn't make you a better fighter. That and the Vargas fight.

 

Oscar should have won versus Mosley in the rematch, but should have lost to Quartey and Sturm. I scored his fight against Whitaker a draw, but that was only due to the WBC's very questionable accidental foul point reduction rule. Had it not been for that rule, I would have had Whitaker winning.

 

........and you're Mr. Neutral! :nut

The vast majority at ringside had Mosley winning, so a robbery like how you want to describe it, it is not.

You Delahomos are something else. When DLH was on the scene, you all were just as bad as the *******s and *****s are today.


"Mosley did'nt do anything for 2/3 of the fight!" :nut

You want to watch a boxer not do anything, go watch DLH prance around the ring like a tinkerbell vs Tito! :deal

 

from what I can remember at the end of the fight I had it for SSM but thought it could go either way (closer than the first fight). I hate when people say robbery, to me that word should only be used when its a clear 5-6 point win. I think Oscar clearly lost to sweet p (borderline robbery) and strum, it could have gone either way against Ike (i had Ike winning close). but he clearly beat Tito (borderline robbery)

 

I had DLH beating Pea handily based on pure activity.
Whitaker did what he does best, make DLH miss and look foolish, but mount nothing effective offensively to catch scoring judges eyes.
Whitaker resorted to pitter pattering and throwing an occasional pot shot.
He did'nt even attempt to be effective offensively.

Quartey outboxed DLH, mastering him with a power jab.
Now thats a jab, not a pitter patting guage of one.

This notion that DLH swept every round in the early to mid rounds against Tito is ridiculous. When a fighter is being as conservative as DLH was throughtout almost every round, judges dont rewards that by giving him consecutive rounds.
The mistake DLH made throughout was to gameplan to land 2 or 3 good effective shots in a round, and then attempt to live off of that by avoiding exchanges for the remainder of the round.
It made for a lousy fight and judges dont like that.

I had DLH up a round after 9, and then proceeded to give Tito the remaining 3 after DLH put his sprinting shoes on.

 

Still sore over Oscar toying with Chicanito I see.

 

I agree that Oscar did the dumbest thing ever against Tito . . . I really have no idea what he was thinking. But I think he had enough rounds in the bank to take it (not saying he swept the first 9. Not a fan of either guy but Oscar should have had his hand raised at the end . . . but i have no problem with anyone who thinks otherwise.

as for the pernell fight, yes he was more active but he was not effective at all. if one fighter is swing at air and the other one is not throwing as much its a tough call. However, if you look at how to score a round a component of that is ring generalship . . . i would say the person making the other miss and not be touched trumps Oscars ineffective aggression. The same ineffective aggression he displayed against PBF (to even a greater degree).

 

I scored it for Mosley. Lots of people at the fight did as well. I thought Mosley's roided shots were better punches though fewer.

 

I agree, DLH ineffective aggression was similar in both Whitaker and Mayweather fights.
The difference to me was that the punchoutput exhibited by Mayweather was effective in comparison to Whitaker.
Mayweather puts out a lower workrate than Whitaker but his punches had more torque, leverage, and zip behind them, thus making them effective.

The difference in class between DLH and Mayweather looked clear to me. Mayweather much better able to manuever the ring and get himself in position to land effective connects. The problem was that he did'nt do enough of it to seperate himself clearly from DLH.
I scored it a one point victory for Mayweather giving him a round that could just have easily been scored even and thus the fight a draw.

This is the problem with defensive fighters like Mayweather and Whitaker, against the upper tier, their workrate for to long of stretches diminishes to sometimes nothing, and then they expect judges to reward them solely based on defense.
Sorry, but this is proffesional boxing where a heavy emphasis on effective punches is required.
Defense counts for sure, but when effective connects are minimal on both ends, so does activity and just letting your hands go even if its not quite being effective.

You cant have a system where you open the doors for a fighter to win relying on mostly defense, or you're going to have the few boxing fans that are left abandoning support for the sport.
I think both those DLH fights with Mayweather and Whitaker were scored fairly.