Oscar vs. Shane 2 Robbery

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  1. turbotime

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  2. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so you're saying Pernel should have won because he was able to make Oscar miss, even though Oscar was non stop attacking him and OUTLANDED him in power punches. Pernell was too scared to do anything else but defend and dance and when he should have been fighting his ass off in the 12th because it was very close, he chose to dance the fight away without doing anything offensive. No way in hell Pernell earned a victory in that fight. You want to say a draw, fine but pernell was the least deserving of a win
     
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  3. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley landed 1 big bomb in the 1st and a few good body punches, doesn't negate oscar's 100+ more crisp punches snapping mosley's head back, and Oscar landed good body shots also.
     
    Flexb, Mar 23, 2013
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  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your arguments are flawed. You can bloody a fighters nose up with a single blow.

    For the record I had DLH handily beating Whitaker, and thought the Mayweather fight was close enough to have been scored a draw.

    The last thing about Genaro Hernandez. You should learn to respect admirable human beings who are deceased.
    I sport a Genaro Hernandez avatar out of respect for Hernandez the noble Warrior and great human being. One of the few really good guys in the sport of boxing littered with scum.

    Adding to that, though I did'nt know him personally, I followed his career and mostly fights from the Great Western Forum. Genaro grew up in South Central Los Angeles where I live.

    Just representing the class that was Genaro Hernandez. You should learn a little something about class and respect before you mouth off!
     
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  5. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no issues with Genaro, he was a great champ.
    I didn't have oscar handily beating whitaker and wouldn't have been upset if it was a draw, nothing really happened in the fight that either man deserved the W. Oscar's agression and more effective punches gave him the edge.
    I had Mayweather beating Oscar 116-112 possibly 115-113, would have to watch again. I also had Oscar losing 116-112 to mosley the first fight and to sturm also. Quartey was close but no way can he go into the 12th in a very close fight and get tuned like that and win. I had oscar down by a point going into that round. That knock down made the difference. I think those that say Oscar lost are just obsessed with the fact he was knocked down and cautious for a couple rounds after that.
    Tito fight is a no brainer.
     
    Flexb, Mar 23, 2013
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  6. divac

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    I dont put Genaro up with the elites of the sport, but he certainly represented the sport of boxing proudly. In that sense, Genaro was elite to the sport. I just had an issue with you calling him a quitter when he deserves more respect than that.

    DLH was'nt more effective than Whitaker was, they both were ineffective, so the way I score fights, activity and effort win the day in such a scenario.

    Mayweather was'nt busy enough vs DLH to win it as wide as 8-4.
    7-5 seems like justice to me. 6-6 is fair enough giving DLH credit for effort and activity, the through almost every round I gave Mayweather, his punches overall were connecting cleaner and were much more effective.
    Boxing is scored round by round though, so even though overall Mayweather landed with much better blows, that was'nt the case in 5 if not 6 or more of those rounds.

    The Quartey fight was competitive but not necessarily close heading into the 12th. I had DLH needing a knockout heading into the final round, he did'nt get it!
     
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  7. elchivito

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    Yea Oscar was a complete fighter by then I think he was at his best Mosley looked confused as if to think "Damn this isn't the same fighter from the first fight." Close, but clear, clear win for Oscar. First fight I had Mosley winning by a point. Lol Oscar beat Ike and Sturm tho having a very good jab did nothing else. A,draw was fine.
     
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  8. turbotime

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    so what did you score oscar/shane II
     
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  9. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think I remember Oscar broke Genaro's nose and he felt like Oscar was simply the better fighter and felt there was no need to continue, cause it wasn't as if he was really hurt or getting destroyed.
    As for Quartey fight, after they traded knockdowns ike picked up a small lead only to start shutting down offensively while oscar slowly started picking up the pace, gaining those points back and trailing one point going into the 12th. There was no way Oscar was behind by more than 2 points going into the 12th. I can see if people want to say it was a draw because it was so competitive and close, but at the end of the day oscar scored more both in knockdowns and power punches and really did earn everything he got in that fight. I think it was an off night for Oscar also and he underestimated Quartey.
     
    Flexb, Mar 24, 2013
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  10. elmaldito

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    exactly the way i see it but i had mosley winning 115-113.
     
    elmaldito, Mar 24, 2013
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  11. The Akbar One

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    Yup
     
    The Akbar One, Mar 24, 2013
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  12. TheGreat

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    Not a robbery Mosley landed the much harder and crisper shots, HBO was sucking Oscar's dick While ignoring Mosley's work, now if you wanna argue a NC based Mosley and PEDs, than I would agree.
     
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  13. turbotime

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    Landing 5 of the hardest 8 punches doesn't win you 12 rounds :verysad It was a robbery


    Then Shane was on roids to boot!
     
    turbotime, Mar 24, 2013
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  14. TheGreat

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    Pitty pats and slaps, don't win fights when the other guy is landing real leather, the only reason people thought or think it was a robbery is because of HBO sucking Oscar's dick. IMHO it should be a NC since Shane wasn't clean, but no way Oscar was robbed, he just didn't finish the fight.
     
    TheGreat, Mar 24, 2013
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  15. TheGreat

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    You wanna see a robbery, watch Spinks vs Mayorga, now that was a robbery **** ref, and **** judges giving some punk ass runner the Unified WW title :verysad
     
    TheGreat, Mar 24, 2013
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