Oscar was the only one talented enough to beat Floyd

DLH only became big as he did because of the Gold Medal and his pretty face. (No Homo). Not necessarily for losing to all of those guys.

 

Prime Winky moved very well also, he wasn't the stationary target that fought Williams. But he wouldn't need that much movement to beat Floyd. His defense, timing, accuracy and jab, and south paw stance would cause Floyd nightmares. Floyd doesn't have the activity to outwork Winky once he turtles up, and also winky's short, precise counters would further deter Floyd from opening up.

I see this looking much like Floyd's fight with Oscar with few differences:

1. Winky would be harder to pick at in the middle of the ring
2. Winky will be smarter and more composed when getting Floyd on the ropes
3. Winky would keep jabbing the entire fight.

 

nothing wrong with fighting marquez - he's easily a great modern day fighter.

but the weight they fought at and the way it happened turned it into a joke.

the paradox with floyd is that he is legitimately a great fighter, but he's picking and choosing when to show it.

 

talkin out yo ass again. im nasty wit the hands mu****a. Do you box? Have you ever laced them up? If you put up a youtube vid of yourself boxing, Ill put one up of mine. and we will let mu****as judge who is better.

 

i fought amateurs years ago.

you never have and that's why you're living through your heroes now.

if you can't be confident online nobody will take you seriously. look how you just reacted to my last post.

 

Right....I don't think anyone disputes that. I'm talking about the CONNECT PERCENTAGE AGAINST DLH. Meaning his opponents ability to connect with their own offense. Not what DLH's actual connect percentage (aggression) was on average throughout his professional career.

DLH was one of the best ALL AROUND or WELL ROUNDED fighters I've seen since becoming a fan of this sport. He may not have been the best technically but he made up for it in other areas like speed, power, intelligence, ring savvy ect. To me he is absolutely one of the best fighters in the last 20 years easily.

 

Dude.....YOU DON'T GET TO DLH'S LEVEL HAVING **** DEFENSE!atsch That makes no sense at all. It's silly to believe that DLH had NO defense operating at this level against guys who are considered SHARP SHOOTERS and leaving them with the inability to land at THEIR OWN average.

 

This "i fought amateurs" **** carries no weight.

I hate when people give themselves more credit for having been involved at some level when even professional boxers underestimate and dismiss certain fights and fighters.

"I boxed, therefore I know more"

Well guess what, a lot of boxers picked cotto to beat pac and they were way better than you ever were.

A lot of boxers picked margarito to beat shane.

Knock that cocky ass attitude off.

 

So damn funny.

floyd gave castillo an immediate rematch after a tough ass fight just like pac gave marquez. Your question about the castillo rematch can apply to the marquez rematch as well.

floyd fought a healthier, bigger oscar and beat him.

You basically said its floyds fault for fighting corrales who struggled with weight and had legal problems. But say its not pacs fault for making ODH drain himself to fight at pacs bull**** catchweight.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

your hate blinds you son.

 

Those SHARP SHOOTERS are the ones who gave him all of his L's. Go slap yourself.

 

i also became an oscar fan early - but oscar was a banger and wasn't without technical prowess. it was beautiful watching him when he was young and throwing combos. he had genuine power.

but i don't agree oscar had intelligence and ring savvy.

you know, it's always those crucial moments that define a fighter, and oscar never really found that except maybe against fernando vargas.

 

decent post, however i disagree with two of your points, hatton was shot, his weight gainig and weight losses in camp were having a big effect on him, so much that after the floyd fight, in his next fight he was staggered horendously by a former lightweight with no specific power who had recently just moved up by the name of juan lazczno.

on the other hand miguel cotto in my eyes is only 70% of what he was before, th margorito fight exterted him to the limits and took away his cofidence and he will neer again see that. he was hit my rocks in his gloves nd pummeled although he gave a good effort, in his fight against joshua clotey he took alot of punishment also and that was a contreversial decision. therefore cotto was somewhat shot and physically drained by the extra weight he had to burn off. the outcome would still be the same but it hapened. pacman seems to fight those when they are vunerable and at their lowest points. cotto, hatton, clottey, morales oscar and barrera were all either coming off losses or had a loss before their next win before losing to manny, this is going to repeat itself again when he faces margorito.

i gave the fight 8-4 to floyd against oscar and oscar was obviously rusty

 

No I didn't. Quit creating some straw man floyd hater when I marginalize a win.

I do the same **** with everyone else.

It's not floyd's fault that corrales beat his pregnant wife and had trouble making weight.
It was a good win, but because of the circumstances it is a damaged win.

Just like pac beating DLH.

Not pac's fault oscar weighed 145... oscar was an idiot.

Damaged the win though.

I think castillo retained his title... sure as **** don't lose a title chasing a runner around the ring who is barely getting off his counter punches... and at a lower percentage than he is taking punches.

It actually makes floyd a better fighter in my estimation when he has taken a loss and avenged it.

This "he won both" stuff just makes me lose even more respect.

Makes him look protected and falsely undefeated.

 

:good I have been saying this forever.