what a shame, Oscar was a childhood favorite and it was disappointing to see him retire like that i always wished he woulda fought one more time at 154 and won and called it a day i wonder how Floyd would have done vs that Oscar
This "secret clause" and "unknown negotiations" bull**** is just as dumb as the people that said Floyd had a "secret clause" with the doping testers that he could fail tests and nobody would know.... smh
troll? did you even read roachs interview where he states he saw the iv coming out of hoyas arm? are you that ignorant? and you still think "Kirk gotcha..." funny how Kirk is no longer here to debunk what im saying. im sure that he is believing that what i stated has validity...obviously with roach admitting to seeing the needle. good grief youre dumb. and to say bbchumps breakdown of the trout/canelo fight was just "decent" shows that youre 100 percent the biggest troll here on the ESB forums because everyone else, pro-trout or pro-canelo, agreed that the thread and breakdown was good. http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=463351 please, put me on your ignore list.
Why would Manny be so willing to fight the HOF Oscar at 147, but ask for a catchweight of 145 vs a Cotto who got beat into submission vs Margarito You dont think it's a coincidence that Oscar weighed the same 145 as the catchweight he asked for Cotto:roll:
http://www.zimbio.com/Oscar+De+La+Hoya/articles/424/Freddie+Roach+Nacho+Beristain+Oscar+De+La i presume he saw the needles when oscar was getting wrapped. i place bets on a wireless device all the time. www.pinnaclesports.com www.matchbook.com www.caliente.com.mx
Is this for real or some hating nonsense?, I don't remember that being a factor nor was it mentioned by anyone either. Surely DLH would have said something leading up to the fight.
so we are all supposed to believe some anonymous guy named johhnydrama99 over freddie roach? a guy that has admittingly had another alias on this forum? oh. okay.
you're "****ing good" yet you have to use an alias(handle) presumably because youve been banned under your former? good grief youre a dumb "kid." by the way, no one here cares about your "original screen name," whatever that screen name may be. perhaps youre more adept at telling us all here what it was like to be banned on an internet boxing forum.
freddie said he saw that actual "iv" itself in hoyas arm. are you implying that delahoya had needles in arms in the ring because i didnt see the iv in hoyas arm when he was "in the ring together giving instructions." http://www.zimbio.com/Oscar+De+La+Hoya/articles/424/Freddie+Roach+Nacho+Beristain+Oscar+De+La "i saw the IV in his arm" -freddie roach in the interview with BoxingFanHouse
Roach did see the IV marks in the ring he said so himself, I think what happened to Oscar is he went on this crazy ass diet and killed himself in the gym to cut the weight, so much so that his body just shut down wouldnt rehydrate.... His fault for agreeing to that weight, they should have offered to fight pac at 150...
No rehydration clause... Oscar was calling the shots not Pac. What did happen was Oscar wanted to show he could beat Pac fair at 147 but just could not make the weight... he was so dehydrated, rehydrating did not work anymore. It was just a gamble that backfired miserably.