Oscar Weighing 145 Pounds for His Last Fight?

I see. And vargas was a natural light heavy just fighting at 154...hatton a natural MW as well. Toss off you poof....you keep trying to start some **** with me by acting like....dare I say it...a baby? :shock:

 

DLH didn't look great against Floyd either at the age of 35.....Floyd didn't look great against Oscar....but it was a tactical battle for the 154 strap where Floyd was able to pull out the W.

The fact is Forbes is not Floyd and his performance at 150 against Stevie wasn't spectacular....but it was a shut out and Forbes didn't win a single round. That is is exactly what was expected....actually a KO would have been expected only that Stevie had never been knocked out.

DLH was known to fade late...and his in between fight weight was always a big topic becasue of how he would lose steam. Oscar would pack on a LOT of weight after weigh in typically but that isn't exactly a good thing.

When fighters balloon up and cut weight, typically on fight night they put on a LOT of weight which is an indication they are not in the best of shape.

Take fighters like Bhop...Floyd or PAC....they keep in shape....they never have problems with stamina and the make weight easy.....the key thing is on fight night they only put on a few pounds after having 24 hours to rehydrate. That is usually a good sign that a fighter is in peak form and ready for war.

Roach says a lot of things in the lead up to fights to get under the skin of his fighters' opponents. But DLH didn't have problem with pulling the trigger...he had a problem ad******g to the immense speed Manny presented. Usually DLH would be the faster fighter in all his fights or at least on par with his opponents. With PAC he couldn't handle the speed and paid for it from the first round.

 

Mayweather's weight gain is not the standard for how we classify weight classes. He's the exception.

 

Typical 130lbers don't ****ing show up at 145-147 on fight night.

Castillo and Mosley showed up at these weights at 135 -a full division higher- and we considered them huge relative to the division. Well, Pac, according to his weight, was just as huge.

 

It makes all the sense in the world:

1. Oscar was not a welter at the time, much less an elite one like Cotto
2. The fight was only makeable at 147. Pac had no intention of moving up to 147 after 1 fight at 135
3. Both guys were making a weight concession, Pac 12lbs, Oscar 3lbs, or 3 full divisons vs 1 division 1 fight prior

 

Hate to say, but in today's boxing, that isn't uncommon. And it doesn't dictate what you think their natural weight is. It just shows these boxers know they system they are in.

 

:think So Pac was actually cutting weight in the lower divisions and wasn't all that small?

 

This is all true, however DLH fought Forbes at 150, and was actively looking to fight a smaller guy at 147. It wasn't Pac that forced him down. It was like Ward beating up on the ghost of Dawson, except for the massive risk (to his health even) Pac took in going up 2 divisions after just having moved up.

 

like i said before, were supposed to take the word of an anonymous boxing internet blogger, who has been admittingly banned under another monicker and who is oblivious to the theories of tort law and slander...over the word of freddie roach?

yeah.

whatever you say, JohnnyDrama99 or whatever monicker youre going by now.

look up the word slander and libel and youll realize that people that have a positive liquid net worth dont go around spurting off because it could possibly be detrimental to said net worth.

you would know this if you had a positive net worth.

now please, why dont you make yuorself useful and tell us here how it feels to be banned from an internet website.

 

Dude near everyone in boxing cuts weight. Nobody has been able to cut weight over 7 divisions. Cotto goes down 1lb, and he's cooked.

 

If that's what you got from it....

 

How many times can a fighter move up and still need to cut weight? That's an interesting question.

If Pac was at 112, 122, 126... how is he still rehydrating to 145-147 at 130? Seems that he should have been closer to the limit.

 

This is a very good point. 2 items:

1. A 2lb rehydration clause is more dangerous than same day weighin, since you have to stay pretty much on weight overnight. Maybe at a state fair, but that doesn't sanctioned in pro boxing, much less for the biggest star. Unless a secret medical board was agreed to by DLH
2. If he made weight correctly, how does he undershoot the rehydration limit by 2lbs (or 1.5 lol)

 

Was he rehydrating up to 145 when he was still at 126? There isn't a fighter alive who doesn't fights as light and effectively as he can get. This has been the case in boxing for decades.

 

So what do we do about it now? Guys go up in weight, Duran 156 vs Hagler. It's rare they retain effectiveness after a few weight class, much less 7.