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Nice try again Jack

 

A great figther allways going for big figths.

 

:deal I could never understand OSCARS popularity !

 

Would you really call a Mosley rematch at 154 a "step-up"?

Sure Mosley won the first fight, but that was 3 years earlier, and Mosley hadn't won a fight in 2 years and it was just his 2nd bout @ 154.

I'm not sure if that's any more of a "step-up" than fighters like Whitaker, Quartey, or maybe even Vargas at the time.

And while calling his fights with Whitaker and especially Quartey are questionable, so are his losses to Mosley in the rematch and especially Trinidad.

 

I think your being a little too rough on Oscar. How many fighters, with his stature went out looked to make the toughest fights he did. I would say he beat Trinidad, who would represent his best win. The other losses were close with exception of Hopkins and Floyd in my opinion. I think Oscar has had a great career with a lot of good exciting fights. Really hes been a one handed fighter for the most part of his career, but yes, when he matched up against what the consensus views as other great fighters, he lost.

 

WTF are you talking about JackASS Presscott?

DLH unified with Vargas at 154lbs, he won the WBC belt from Castillejo and unified it with the WBA belt.

 

He means fully unified.

DLH-Quartey would've been a WBA/WBC unification, but the WBA apparently thought fighting Oscar was a good reason to strip him instead of fighting a mandatory. Who was it, James "Pound for Pound the Best" Page (thanks Big George)?

Of course, the good ole' WBA decided next year that Lennox Lewis should be stripped for fighting Michael Grant instead of John Ruiz.

 

Quartey was maybe deserving of being top 10 p4p, but he wasn't ranked in the magazines in the top 10 at the time. KO magazine didn't have Chavez in the top 10 in the months preceding the first fight with Oscar, but he was toward the bottom of the top ten in The Ring's annual year-end poll for 1995. Don't know exactly what the Ring magazine had him at that point though. Mosley wasn't ranked in the top 10 in the rematch. He had left it after his two straight losses to Forrest, and then the no-contest against Marquez. I remember looking it up in The Ring and Mosley wasn't in it. I think it was the issue with Oscar on the cover, "Oscar at 30".

 

yep. :yep

 

Quartey doesn't have good luck with the judges. He jabs the **** out of Lopez and gets a draw. Lopez did not win 5 rounds. Quartey fights a very close one with Oscar, but the judges were so off, that Ike could've won the 12th and still not won the fight. Then those scorecards with Forrest were out there too.

 

it was a split decision.

that fairly reflected the fact it was close. :hey

 

Yeah, but the judges were so bad that Quartey could've won the 12th and not won the fight. There is no way that any logical, objective scorer could have Oscar winning the fight going into round 12.

But really, what do you expect from Ken Morita?

 

I've looked at some issues in KO around that time period and didn't see Quartey in the top 10 p4p. I remember it because it surprised me that he actually wasn't there. The Ring year-end poll is a little different from their own rankings since it's a poll, but usually they don't stray much at all. Here's their list up to 2001.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10208

Mosley wasn't in the top 10 in mid-2003, but they put him at #3 after the rematch with Oscar. I thought that was too big of a jump for a controverisal decision in which he didn't really look all too good.

 

totally agree.