Other than the Walters fiasco

And you think I'm a black power troll, but I'd cheer for Fury to beat Joshua. I think Joshua is a hypejob. I didn't even think oyu were a white power troll or some unreasonable ee fan before. I could be wrong but itjust seems like you're fed up with "ward fans", which is a large amount of black fans and you're trying to trigger them and troll them like how they troll golovkin.

 

It's not an absolute joke at all, and I can see Loma's logic in this. He's condifent he'll win and will get paid just the same he'd be in his other fights, you're acting as if every boxer gets paid their money exactly according to their figures and resume, that's not the case. The only reason Lomachenko even offered the side bet is to get Walters in the ring with him, other guys would just tell him to take it or leave it.

Lomachenko's an olympian who's slightly younger and has seemingly more talent and a brighter career prospect, Arum is willing to pay and invest in him more for that reason, that's on him, if Walters wanted 50/50, maybe Arum should have offered him 800k like he did to Loma? So why is Loma in the fault here?

 

ok I will reconsider my position :rasta

no promises

 

Walters moved up to 130 fights a fighter he should have beaten.

Lomochenko moves up to 130 straight into a title.

Walters had his chance and priced himself out, Lomochenko clowns Walters who will take a few L's at 130.

 

So if it's not a joke, why don't all boxers do this LOL. You think that this is standard in boxing, and a legitimate offer? You can't seem to answer that question. Why does Walters have to be the one that agrees to this joke.

No, I'm not acting like that, I'm just explaining why Walters thinks the deal is unfair. Look, we clearly do not agree that 800/500k is not reasonable that's fine, but like I said for the millionth time it's not even close to a 50/50 offer. I feel like a broken record, but again the reason why saying that is so re****ed is because a 50/50 split is everything 50/50 down the line no matter what. If walters gets a draw, or loses it's not 50/50 so no it's not even comparable. I feel like I'm explaining to you why 10+10=20, this is OBVIOUS stuff.

When did I say loma is at fault? I'm saying neither are at fault, but Walters did not duck him. You're getting confused here. Loma clearly has been spoiled, so I don't blame him for not wanting to fight walters under a 50/50 split. I'm just simply calling you out for saying it's basically 50/50 when it's not. The reason this fight didn't happen is because of financial reasons, not because anyone is scared. Hell Walters might be scared, but he has a legitimate reason not to want to fight Loma, that's my point.

And dude just be honest, you say no I don't think he's ducking, but then you say you don't think he'd fight under 50/50 terms. You clearly do, stop lying.

 

How's it going Odin, enjoy the fights bruv?

 

give me kisses before you sleep love

 

It's always a pleasure to see Lomochenko and Verdejo.

Not watched the Molina v Provodnikov fight yet but heard it didn't play out as advertised. Get round to that one later.

 

I missed the loma/martinez fight. I regret it, you didnt miss much in the Molina/Provo fight. Basically a lot of holding.

 

He has been a student of those gents all his life, who else is he gonna learn those skills from? These bustas is gonna try and deny it but just watching him will tell you that. I think that he beats Salido this time around but I really would like to see him rematch GRJ.

 

White power troll? You obviously haven't read my posts if you think that. No need to be so defensive, relax a bit. I won't miss talking to you, take it easy.

 

:good Only a fool doesn't appreciate quality because they don't like the source material.

 

I don't know why it's not the standard, I don't think it should be, but I am personally surprised it doesn't happen more often.

The reason I say the split is even is because each fighter is to risk losing and gaining the same depending on the outcome, that's obvious. With evenly matched fighters the offer doesn't really favour any party, OK, when you take into account that Loma would be favoured politically (and that's a big if, it's not like Loma's been robbing guys, in fact he got ****ed over by Salido) and him being a favourite, yes it favours Loma a bit. To be honest, this is the last time I'll touch upon this because I'm tired of going in circles now.

Now is Walters ducking... I don't know, initially those were my thoughts but I gotta agree, if Walters was offered say 800k+ guarantee I think he'd take it. But I don't see him making a fuss over 150k personally when he's also got a chance to win more here.

 

It's not standard because it's usually the far better guys that would be offering it. You say it's "not standard", like it happens sometimes. Can you name me ONE high profile fight where at least a million dollars was a stake that this happened?

The split is not even. One gets the advantage if there is a draw. Why didn't loma offer a deal where Walters gets 800k he gets 500k and if he wins Walters has to pay him 300k? Calling this a 50/50 is just ridiculously stupid, and I hope you don't actually believe this. I'm not saying anything about loma being favored politically, and he was robbed in no way. Don't know where you got that he got ****ed over by salido. Did he got ****ed over by weight? and low *****? Yes, but not on the scorecards, that's the consensus whether you like it or not. Anyways back to my point I'm saying Walters was just fked over, why would he take this offer where if he fights to a draw, or gets screwed over he doesn't get a fair split in his opinion?

Ok, I respect your opinion on that, I don't think Walters is ducking just based on the fact that I find the deal unfair. I don't actually know if walters would take a 50/50, but I'm not going to just start jumping on the bandwagon and saying he's a duck when I can understand his point of view.

 

Because Loma was offered more initially is my guess, in a case of a draw it should be split 50/50 then but a draw is unlikely either way in any fight, I'm sure something could have been worked out if that was such an issue for Walters.

As for robberies, that's a cynical outlook in my eyes with not much substance but point taken, it could turn nasty if that was to happen. As for Salido, in my opinion a completely blatantly corrupt referee like that is no better than corrupt judging, Loma got ****ed over in that fight by the ref.

Either way I'm off, tired of arguing now and I'm not sure why we are even at this point since we both acknowledge that Loma's not in the fault here at all.