Other than the Walters fiasco

Debating about how the side bet things is a joke. Loma obviously thinks he's lowballing Walters if he's offering him some side bet. Why do you think Loma deserves more? All he's done is fought on pac undercards, he's never proven in numbers that he brings more to the table. Walters has fought more names.

And as for the 300k side bet, can you tell me in high profile fights where a guy took nearly 50% less than his opponent even though they both are similar draws, and accepted the deal because there was some side bet on the table?

 

I like you latineg, you're very persistent. So I'm going to give you a chance to point out my racism. Give me examples.

 

One more thing I'm curious about.

So do you think Loma's offer was reasonable because you're biased or are you basing this off facts? The reason I think it's unreasonable but the 300k thing was even more of a joke is because of facts not because of any bias I might have.

 

Yeah but it's not really a sidebet if there's a guarantee, if Lomachenko's obliged to give up 300k after then it's not really just a personal sidebet between the fighters like you're trying to make out. If that's the case I'd agree with you.

I don't know if it happened or not, it probably has many times but I couldn't tell you when, ask someone else.

Why Lomachenko gets more? Honestly, the only reason is that Lomachenko's Arum's favourite at this moment and that's what tends to happen in boxing.

 

I never implied that this "side bet" is something you can get out of. If Walters won of course Loma would pay. It's just a joke of an offer, of course you can't tell me if it happens, because offers like that are a fking joke in boxing. I'm sure in Tijuana or something they have deals like that all the time, but not high profile guys.
Wouldn't you think maybe a 55/45 split is more fair?

 

Martinez has more fans than Lomachenko but Lomachenko is the money maker:
Lomachenko $850k
Martinez $425k

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/06/purses-lomachenko-850k-martinez-425k/

 

I dont know Martinez's numbers or what not. But let's say he does do far more numbers etc than Loma, he would 100% not be a duck or unreasonable for not taking the fight with Loma.

Just because someone is willing to be lowballed doesnt justify the fact that Walters was too.

 

Yes, it'd be more fair. But I don't think the technicalities of the split is why Walter pulled out at all. The way he explained it to me is clear, he thinks he'll lose or be made to lose and he wants to be compensated for it. I don't see even a 50/50 split in that situation appear instantly so much more attractive than the offer he received.

 

Thanks dude, I don't mind you either :good

there are members on that have hate towards the dudes that are biased towards white and vice versa, you never go after dudes that are biased towards black but you constantly going after the dudes that are biased towards white,,,, why is that? If one concerns you the other should just as well,,,

unless you are biased, which I feel FAIR claiming about you based on the majority of posts I have come across of yours in the forum.

but didn't we already have this same talk long ago??

 

Yep, that's what happens in boxing. Promoters have favourites and Loma's one of them whereas Walters is not.

 

I dont think that's why Walters pulled out. He was given an unreasonable offer, and he declined it, and didnt agree to this side betting nonsense. The only way I can say that the reason Walters pulled out is because he knows he'll lose is if he declines a fair offer.

Anyways it's just a shame to me that you had to resort to the 300k sidebet is 50/50 trolling. I know you're not that dumb. You said you always thought me of a re****/biased poster, but unlike you when someone calls me something, it doesn't change my mind. In 2015 you were an objective poster, probably the only objective one on this board honestly speaking You might have had your biases, but you didnt resort to **** like this. It's just a shame to me seeing one of the guys I actually didn't mind debating with turn into some troll saying 800/500k with a 300k side bet is 50/50, "if they think they can win".

If you thought the 800/500k offer was fair. Fair enough. I think it's ridiculous, but what I'm calling you out for is saying that it was basically a 50/50 offer, when we all know that these kind offers in boxing are jokes, and just don't happen in high profile fights. If they have EXTREMELY rarely, and just because one side has a bad management team doesn't mean others should be forced itno these deals.

 

False. I have all the time. I've gone after people going at Khan, etc because they are Mayweather fans and because Khan bad mouthed him. I have more examples for you if you like.

I've gone after idiots that think that Jacobs has a chance against GGG. Lara has a chance against GGG, should I go on?

 

ok ok ok, maybe your right, I don't read all your posts :bbb maybe you are ragging on the pro black dudes equally like I try hard to do, well be equal I mean :thumbsup

put it this way, you better not be trying to trick your way out of this, if you have been unfairly biased against whites in the past and unfairly biased towards blacks you should admit it openly and honestly rather than claim a fair dude like myself is being unfair towards you, that would be a further crime on your part I hope you're aware?

P.S. and the, "I HAVE ALL THE TIME" I find a little biased :rasta

 

Ok so we have a split that's winner takes 800k, loser takes 500k. Who does the split favour and by how much?

Even if there was no side bet going on, it's still a career high payday for Walters by quite a margin, for Loma it isn't (I take the posters' word here, I don't know really).

So with the side bet, what makes this such a lowball?

 

I will admit this though. Am I more offended by the white power trolling, and do I go at them more? Yes, the reason I do is because I feel they are more unreasonable, and more hateful.

Do I ignore the black bs more than the white power bs? Yes, but it doesn't make me racist. I just find one side worse than the other.

I honestly try to be as transparent and unbiased as I can. Unless it's regarding to british people or kovalev, but I've admitted that.