this is EXCELLENT work ellerbe :good this is a START, lets pick this up next time with these admissions and we can move on from there to help you understand what I am fully getting at. no need to rush, these things take time :rasta
Wow, there are actually people that think that Walters didn't duck Lomachenko? He actually did it multiple times, with the most blatant duck being the most recent. You know when Lomachenko chased beltless Walters up to a higher weight and offered a winner takes more money deal to him? Walters still didn't want it and actually said that he would've lost if it went to the cards. That was the most blatant duck I've ever seen in the sport. Walters may as well retire now.
Are you still going on with this trolling atsch. Every boxer should lowball their opponents that they are a favorite against, and offer them these bs side bets according to your logic. There's a reason why this doesn't happen. Also keep in mind Walters got utterly ROBBED by sosa, not saying he will get robbed by loma, I'd pick Loma to school him, but you can't ignore that. What happens if it's a draw? Loma take 800k? he takes 500k? And 50/50 is they SPLIT the money down the line EQUALLY whether they win, lose, or draw. Like seriously you can't be this dumb. Career payday doesn't mean anything. Walters is used to getting lowballed, I don't blame him. If we go by that logic, Manny should have took the 40m against Floyd, it was by far his highest payday. Walters thinks it's unfair, he's fought the names like Nonito, while Loma hasn't why should he take so much less? It's a lowball because Walters has fought the far bigger names, and a former p4p. Walters deserves the bigger purse here let alone 50/50 if I'm being completely honest. If we're basing this off numbers. If we go by purses, Ward has a far higher average than GGG in their last 5 fights, so that automatically means he deserves the split Loma is getting against Walters right? Personally I think the 50/50 offer from Ward was unfair, they do similar hbo numbers, but GGG gets a bigger crowd, a 55/45 split would have been fair.
based on what? The reason I see his team turning down this offer is because of the unreasonable split. Even if the offer like 300k for both of them 50/50 I think he would have took it.
I've always admitted this. Don't know what you're on about . Like I said, I'm honest and transparent, ask me anything and I'll give you an honest answer unless you're trolling.
Walters was beltless in a different weight division after being in a draw. With no other offer like Lomachenko and Bob were offering him. Walters made his little name off Darchinyan and Donaire, 122 lb fighters. Walters has done nothing other than beat up some past it, far smaller fighters then being too unprofessional to make weight when he was due to face Lomachenko next. GRJ is a far better win than anything Walters has done.
Yeah and he got a draw why? He dominated that fihgt. It was a complete robbery. Yes Walters had a huge size advantage in vic, and nonito, I'm not even hyping his resume up, but the facts are THOSE GUYS ARE THE NAMES. Walters fought the names, while Lomachenko has fought Salido who is a decent name, but no one else who is actually a draw. Anyways, you're another white power troll, and I'm actually trying to debate cafe who I actually have some respect for so I'm going to add you on my block list too. Don't really want to argue with like 20 white power trolls at once.
yes I thank you for the honesty :good so you claim that there are FAR more black haters on this forum than white haters? is that a fair statement about you? because imo there is a FAIR amount of both :think
Definitely. It's not even close. I'd say this forum consists of 80% ggg white power trolls, 15% black panthers, and 5% unbiased. And I'm not talking about activity, cause guys like shock etc go on for days, I'm talking about number of users.
Who's trolling, I honestly don't see much reason going from you other than these spasticated outbursts with barely any explanation. You keep saying how bad it is without saying why it's bad. Lomachenko and Walters is a competitive fight on paper there's no obvious favourite, Lomachenko being favoured goes down to guesswork and opinion rather than some fact. What happens in a draw? Well we don't know, I'm not going to make assumptions either. And Lomachenko's made more or as much money before, why would he move up and be paid less to take on the most dangerous opponent of his career who also doesn't even have a belt and is coming off a draw (wrong as it may be)? Walters on the other hand gets his career high pay day either way. By multitudes if he were to win.
I'm not even a white power troll, I'm eastern european lol, that's the only reason I favour eastern boxers. If Fury was to fight Wilder I really couldn't give a **** less who wins or loses. And I'd definitely want Joshua to win against Fury, big fan of Joshua.
ok, well that would explain your biased against them I admit, lets just hope you haven't created the 80% number with the same biased that I was trying to tell you to start this convo off I'm going to bed after a good night of boxing :good
If it's a draw, Loma takes 800k, and Walters takes 500k. Walters just got blatantly robbed. The 300k side bet thing is a joke, and not even close to a 50/50 offer. A 50/50 offer is when everything is down the middle win, lose or draw. Most likely Walters/Loma is heading to a decision, after being screwed over do you blame him for not taking this deal, even if he didnt this deal is an absolute joke. This is now how boxing works. If you disagree, tell me why this never happens? Why don't all the high profile boxers do these bs kind of side bets to low ball people? I can understand that logic, loma has been spoiled, so I don't blame him for not wanting to take the 50/50 offer. But Loma was the one who was chaing Walters, so why would Walters who has the bigger names on his resume take a far lesser split? If Loma was getting views, fighting huge names and headlining I'd understand, but he doesn't .
I mean I can easily prove it too lol, just pick any random page in the past 6 months on this forum, and you'll see how many more white power trolls there are.