Ottke and Calzaghe are a league above Ward at smw. Face it, Ward didn't dare to be gr

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I'm not a big Joe C fan by any stretch. In fact, while he was active, he was one of my most disliked fighters due to his style and some of the things you mentioned. He really should have crossed the pond and challenged the bhops/RJJ's much earlier on. Because of that, I too think he would have avoided Kovalev were he at the same point in his career as Andre. Joe's longevity though I think has to be looked at in a positive light, possibly enough to overshadow or at least equal the two big wins Ward's career seems based on. Especially when you consider that Joe beat one of those two fighters first. Also, I'm hesitant to give Ward credit for Kovalev yet as I'm not entirely convinced that fight actually happens.

I hope Ward has a good run at 175, but if the Krusher proves too much, I'd like to see him move back and become undisputed 168 champ (again!). Now that would be a feat, even if the 168 division isn't all too deep atm.

 

Ward had an injury induced lay off after winning the Super Six. By the time he active again Bute had long since signed tow back to back fights with Carl Froch.
Was Ward meant to recover and fight Bute at the same time?:huh

No man who wanted to fight GGG and is about to fight Sergey Kovalev would ever avoid Bute.

 

One of the worst boxing insults I've ever seen is this **** about Ward being lucky to have been in the super 6.

 

Good points.

A very fair post.

I would have loved to have seen Andre stay active at SMW just for another year or so, but I'm happy he looks to be fighting Kovalev.

I think we'll see James DeGale at LHW soon too.

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Ward and Calzaghe are very close in several areas:

Both are quick and have good reflexes.

Wards triumph card is his ability to control distance. That would have caused Calzaghe some grief, because he prefers middle range.

Calzaghes stamina, activity and awkwardness would have given Ward trouble. Ward has good defence, but lets not forget that Arthur Abraham caused him trouble as long as Abraham's stamina and heart held up. There's a very real chance Ward would end up looking pressured and confused during parts of the fight.

Wards inside game wouldn't have been enough in itself. If Calzaghe could adopt to Hopkins grab-and-hug style, Wards would have been managable as well.

There's too little margin to favour one fighter over the other in my opinion. The decisive factor could only have been sifted out if the fight would have happened for real.

With Jones Jr vs Calzaghe, it's easier too tell. Jones Jr's power would have done the trick.

 

If Ward fights Kovalev no man can accuse him of not "daring to be great".

Let's be fair.

 

He was fortunate to be included in the super 6. How many other super talented fighters get that kind of opportunity? To have a deal in place wherein they get all the top dogs in their division to come to them and prove themselves?

Unless someone is suggesting he was lucky to have been selected as one of the six included in which case you're right, they're being ridiculous. But that's a very different argument.

 

its kinda polar opposite to being lucky in the way cowardzage was to have Wassen feed him largely nobodies for 10 years.

Or polar opposite to being lucky in the way Ottke kept being handed a win after ostensibly getting outboxed again and again.

because being handed the best of the best over 2 years and cleatly beatingthem - is the opposite of those.

kinda depends if you define luck as being given an easy hand, or a difficult one. Ward clearly was given the luck of a very difficult draw - which most people would not describe as "lucky" or "easy".


Certainly if joe cal got handed a super 6 draw then he'd "mysteriously" develop an injury and pull out and run off back to wales faster than you can say "cowardzaghe". He'd feel "lucky" to have got away from the super 6.

 

You really need help. I hope you get it.

If you want to discuss what a unique opportunity the super 6 was for a fighter to prove themselves then respond otherwise stay in your corner mumbling 'Cowardzaghe'.

 

What do you expect? The guy is quoting himself. [emoji13]

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hahahaha

 

haha u ran away from the argument once I pointed out your fail, and pretended I'm wrong in showing u your error.


no mate super six is tougher/harder than facing largely nobodies for a decade, sorry u cant admit it and instead argue the opposite of the truth

 

No they can't, it's the best fight in boxing to be made imo.

My only problem with Ward is the fighters he's faced or going to face prior to Kovalev.

Great fight though and I cannot wait.

 

There is something fundamentally wrong with you.

The super six WAS an amazing opportunity for Andre Ward. One that he seized with both hands. I'm not sure what about that you disagree with. Lots of boxers would kill for an opportunity like that. You've gone off on a rant about Joe Calzaghe again because that's what you do. Only you know why you do that. The rest of us just think you're an oddball with reading comprehension issues.

 

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