Otto Automatik Ballin' Wallin Demands Proof of Dillian Whyte's Shoulder Injury...

From their press release:
"In light of the above points, the trace amounts of metabolites found in the 20 June 2019 sample are consistent with an isolated contamination event, and they are not suggestive of doping."
That reads like UKAD messed up. (A few people are saying as much in this thread). But if you think they are lying and that Whyte was doping, I don't have the answers for you. But, you could actually just try emailing them and ask how traces of an anabolic steroid entered the sample.

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Btw, I'm curious as to why you think they would lie for Whyte. Any opinions on this?
Maybe I am being naive here, but I am not sure what UKAD gain from doing this.

That is the opposite of what I am saying. I would prefer for them to wait for the official test results to be conferred to them. If the results/judgement show a fighter should be banned, then uphold the ban. Don't pick and choose which official results to uphold and which to ignore.

Again, what I don't think should happen is for the WBC to act in a cavalier manner, ignoring some UKAD bans and trying to ban Whyte based on a rumour. Does that seem fair to you?

 

I think we can all agree that there lies the problem with UKAD. The investigations take too long. They do not have the resources to move forward with an investigation at a pace that would please the fans. If the athlete is given a provisional ban whilst the investigation is carried out, and is innocent, that's a year out of the ring. Fighters are not allowed to spar under UKAD rules, if caught they extend the ban. So that would really screw over an innocent fighter under investigation.

 

Without a doubt the Fury debacle made UKAD look bad. In other sports there's a unified body to deal with which then enforces it's own rules when they are notified of failed test but because of boxing's fractured and shambolic organisation on a global scale UKAD procedures simply are not sufficient.

But we shouldn't single out UKAD, if were honest it's not just a UKAD problem. VADA for example can be opted in and out of to avoid detection unlike UKAD where 24/7 365 days per year random testing is compulsory, VADA has no authority to ban fighters that's down to the local athletic commission in the states so a fighter failing a VADA test can be banned in one state but can fight overseas even when banned or even in another state in the US. Bans can also be horribly inconsistent and the Mayweather/WADA situation with his TUE again highlights how boxing's fractured nature and lack of proper organisation can easily circumvent and corrupt the purpose of these testing bodies.

The problem is just as much the lack of a coherent, unified and global boxing body working with the testing bodies as the testing bodies themselves which is why doping in boxing will always be a problem regardless of the testing body.

 

Why would UKAD cover up for Whyte? Why would WBC decide clenbuterol is no longer illegal after Canelo tests positive for it, even though several other fighters tested positive for it and used the contaminated meet excuse before? Why would Charr continue to be recognized as the WBA champ after testing positive for 2 anabolic steroids? Why would UKAD wait until after Fury pulls out of the Klitschko rematch to suspend Fury for an incident that took place a year and a half earlier? We never have the exact answers for any of these, I can only speak out against it when It doesn’t make sense to me.

WBC didn’t ban Whyte, they temporarily suspended him. Which is exactly what you should do when a fighter is under investigation for possible drug abuse.

 

Having had problems with both shoulders I can attest that MRI's are not always conclusive. A shoulder ligament tear will show up but different kinds of bursitis, etc. are less clear cut. While Whyte may not be able to absolutely prove his condition, it's hard to absolutely prove he doesn't have issues.

 

Well I would say if you are going to accuse a group of corruption, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out their motive.

Tomatos Tomatoes. Yes, you are correct they didn't exactly ban him, but it's not quite as you describe either.
They removed his mandatory status and dropped him from the rankings whilst they conducted their own investigation. They cleared him btw.
But they also sanctioned his fight against Marius Wach. So, it wasn't a provisional ban to protect potential victims like you are espousing.

Their motive: It was just a convenient way for them to ignore Whyte's mandatory claim. Funny how that kept happening.

So that's UKAD who cleared him
And the WBC who cleared him

 

We need to see X-rays and proof as now he has signed the fight he shouldn’t be able to just duck it because he has a better offer.

Why didn’t Billie Joe Saunders provide proof of his eye injury? When the same mongs were asking for proof of Dubois eye injury?

 

Whatever happened to that B sample? Did it go into hiding?

 

Eddie Hearn hid that mofo sample deep up his rectum.

 

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Now we know

 

Whyte has already admitted the shoulder was a sham

"So what am I gonna do? Fight Otto Wallin or fight Tyson Fury. What are you gonna do? It's common sense"

 

I personally agree that Whyte very likely is ducking Wallin, but that is not the entire interview, is it? Very sneaky quote mining

"We suffered the injury, I wanted to fight.

“You’ve got professional people on your team, people who use their brain. I use my balls and my muscle.

“These guys are the brain guys – the surgeons and the doctors – and they told me, ‘If you fight, you’re gonna risk your career.'”

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/968070/dillian-whyte-tyson-fury-slowing-down-deontay-wilder/

 

Who gives a **** about Wallin? He was never entitled to a shot anyway.

 

He completed a camp at his own cost
That dont matter no?

 

I didn't know that. Point taken.

Then he shouldn't have made the fight in the first place ... and going through with it should be the penalty for making that dumb decision.