Ouma got robbed...

The outcome of the judges was the real robbery, Vanes is 23 years old, fighting with a cut against a very formidable opponent. If that was a 12 round fight Ouma looked like he was almost out. The right boxer won, unfortunately the margin he won by was not credible nor fair for Ouma.

 

Personally I'm against giving fights to cyclists, even though it was a close fight.

 

The score cards showed that Ouma never had a chance. I had high hopes for this new Top Rank show. Here in the states we get very little high quality boxing on free TV. A top prospect vs a tough/cagey former champ is very good for free TV.

However, biased judging will ruin the show if it becomes a pattern. Nobody that's any good will be willing to fight a Top Rank guy on the show, and it will deteriorate to the level of FNF. They better wise up. It's like the old song says, "Ya gotta let the bad guy win every once in awhile!"

 

See that's what concerns me most. Same for the Mtagwa fight I just rewatched, did he lose ok but by the scorecards he only wouldve won if he ko'd the guy, twice. Same for Funeka in 09. Heck Martinez?-Cintron, he did put the guy down for 10 and STILL lost on the cards.


Its becoming more tiring for me now than in years past to even watch after stuff like this.

I remember going a few years not watching boxing after being so turned off by bad matchups/decisions that I just had a distaste for it.

 

I know what you mean about getting turned off. However, there are also times when we see stuff that makes it all worthwhile.

Wiliams/Martinez: awesome fight to watch in spite of the one bogus score card.

Cermeno/Valdez: what a freaking WAR!! Bring me Cermeno/Agbeko right now!!

Even Pavlik/Espino was a lot of fun to watch. Ya don't get to see KP "fight in a phone booth" very often.

Bute/Andrade II: how often do we get to see a guy like Librado get sparked: amazing performance by Bute.

All in all there's enough good stuff to keep me feeding my addiction:yep

 

But what if he doesn't win the round by a hair...and its SIMPLY A CLOSE ROUND...Who do you give it to?

And why should one fighter be punished??

If its close...it should even!!!!

 

scorecards really dont matter if the right man won. history remains the same

 

That just goes to show you how bad the scoring in America is. Ouma is from Africa and came to fight a US Olympian. The fight was scored before it ever started. The only chance he had was by KO.

The same thing happened to Kessler, the ref turned his head and allowed Ward way too much rough housing for my book. Ward should of been disqualified.

 

Agree for sure, it's just that now I watch what I want, back then I watched everything! Just gets frustrating.

 

The judges gave Vanes 5 extra points for his Chinese get-up.

 

This is a classic example of a close fight that was not in any way a robbery. Martiroysan deservedly got the decision, although the margins were a tad wide, imo.

 

Vanes is a hype job, he will get smashed by anybody in the top 20. I would pick Julio over him right now.

 

I just scored this fight. Here is my rd by rd scorecard

round 1: OUMA 9 - 10 VM
round 2: OUMA 9 - 10 VM
round 3: OUMA 10 - 9 VM
round 4: OUMA 9 - 10 VM
round 5: OUMA 10 - 9 VM (Closest round of the fight, maybe should be a draw)
round 6: OUMA 10 - 9 VM
round 7: OUMA 9 - 10 VM
round 8: OUMA 10 - 9 VM (Another very close round)
round 9: OUMA 10 - 10 VM (Vanes won the round but the KD makes it even)
round 10: OUMA 9 - 10 VM

TOTAL : OUMA 95 - 96 VM

 

10-9 Ouma
10-10
10-9 Ouma
10-9 Vanes
10-9 Ouma
10-9 Vanes
10-9 Vanes
10-9 Vanes
10-9 Ouma
10-9 Vanes

96-95 Ouma

If me, Philla, and one other guy with a ****ing brain and two good eyes had judged this, their would be no controversey!

 

I don't agree with the score cards, infact I believe Ouma won, however I can also see it being scored for Vanes, especially him being the house fighter. The round in which he was knocked down, he came back to win in my opinion making it a 10-9