Our hearts beat for Madrimov and Munguia to beat the favorites.

Was ODLH the one directly injecting Canelo with Mexican beef and making him p*ss hot? Was he whispering in his ear "Duck GGG until he looks old and shot"? Was he the one who told Canelo to make Mundo Smith and Kovalev agree to shorter camps so they had worse weight cuts and were weaker? Was Oscar the one telling Canelo to say he'd only fight Benavidez, the rightful no. 1 challenger for the belts the ginger sits on, for a whopping $200 million? Was Oscar the guy who told him to drag a junior middleweight up a dozen pounds to fight Canelo at super middleweight? Was he the one who made Canelo say he wasn't a real middleweight when he was the lineal middleweight champion and had fought at a super middleweight catch-weight just so he wouldn't have to face any dangerous opponents for a solid couple years? Was Oscar the one forcing Canelo to fight at ridiculous catch-weights so that he could bring up natural super lightweights to middleweight? Yeah, those diva antics were what I meant. Canelo's a grown ass man who makes his own decisions, we all know he's been the biggest shot caller in the sport for years now, and chooses what he wants to do with Reynoso, not because his coked up paymaster told him so.

 

Don't think we can blame fishnets for that. But ......

Quite possibly.

Very probable. Again, this is why people hated DLH, and hated Canelo by association. And when Canelo kicked him to the curb, you would think this would cause his haters to suddenly respect him for doing what they wanted him to do all along, what was the primary reason for their issues with him.

Those were after he was no longer with DLH. By the way, I find it funny that you're accusing Canelo of dragging Mell up 2 weight classes, yet we have a good amount of fans who want to see Crawford move up 3 weight classes to fight Canelo, some think he could win. And before Tim Tszyu lost, you had several Tim fans that were sure he could move up tp 2 weight classes and dethrone Canelo. FTR I've been critical of Canelo and his ducking of Benavidez. But the fact is fans had long been hating on Canelo due to "mostly" stuff that DLH was pulling behind the scenes.

Ah YES lol, that was 100% DLH. Young Canelo was being advised by DLH to agree to stipulations and strategies that DLH wanted, remember how people couldn't stand how DLH kept saying he wanted to "marinate" the GGG fight. Remember how angered people were when DLH idiotically bragged about making GGG wait for a 3rd fight. Canelo eventually reached a point where he realized DLH was harming his reputation by all his BS.

DLH was advising him. The catchweights were demanded of Canelo, by Cotto, by Khan, not by him. The Kovalev reyhdration clause, of course DLH was behind that. That's the point. Fans took issue with that. Not only that, but Canelo haters repeatedly accused DLH of rigging scorecards and paying off judges.

I don't disagree, but when Canelo was younger, he left a lot of the decisions and the deals to Oscar. As he got older he asserted more control over his career, and eventually realized that he had to get away from DLH.

 

First of all dumbass, you specifically said I complained about “Oscar” paying off judges. I’ve never done that. Sure other posters have said that. Take that up with them FFS…

Oh STFU…. Posters claims of a promoter paying off judges is not anything new here. Happens all the time. And I have no dog in this fight. Munguia wins, cool. Canelo wins, that’s cool too. You just can’t help but be a pathetic pearl-clutching paranoid fanboy.

And you obviously have no clue how top use the word 'Irony'....which in and of itself is ironic.

 

Nice. Although all this will do is give Shadow someone else to blame for all Canelo’s unpopular choices. He’ll find any way to remove or lessen blame for Canelo.

Hell, Shadow also thinks he knows EXACTLY where the tainted beef came from. He says it was a dinner with Bill Clinton. Good luck with him.

 

"Paranoid"? lol if anyone was paranoid it was all the people who accused DLH of paying off judges. I'm merely pointing out that all those over the top allegations about DLH stopped the moment Canelo left him. Don't play dumb, you know exactly what I'm saying and it's quite accurate and relevant to this matchup.

 

LOL I've been pretty consistent, I'm not the one who were accusing DLH of paying off judges, who denied clear meat contamination and accused him of being a cheater lol.