Out of Monzon, Hagler, and Hopkins: who had best chance to beat both?

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  1. Punch_Drunk

    Punch_Drunk The Sweet Science Full Member

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    If they were all matched up against each other who had the best chance or style to go 2-0.
     
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  2. D.T

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    The Marvelous one
     
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  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Monzon, IMO.
     
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  4. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Monzon. He isnt getting KOed by either and i dont see any of the two out boxing him.
     
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  5. gumbo2176

    gumbo2176 Active Member Full Member

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    As much as I like Hagler, I'd have to go with Monzon on this call.
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Monzon.

    I've been watching a lot of Hopkins in the last week. There are so many holes in his game, but he hides most of them well. Hagler is my 2nd fave middle ever but I think (by a very narrow margin) that Monzon could upset his applecart with strength, persistence and his amazing control of distance and pace.
     
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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Monzon
     
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  8. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    People are voting for Hagler but not posting. Talk to us people, lets get some debate flowing.
     
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  9. Commando

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    Hagler....and that's the bottom line cause Commando said so.
     
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  10. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Why?:think
     
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  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Could you be more specific Seamus, I'm curious on your take.
     
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  12. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon was great but I feel like people overrate him just a tad. He had all he could handle from Bennie Briscoe. Briscoe was no can but he was no Hagler either. I'd take Hagler. Hopkins loses to both IMO.
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Specific regarding what?

    Regarding Hopkins, I love the guy, but he's not a combo artist, he's dirty as ****, leads with his head, gets off balance, headbutts, kidney punches, fakes low blows.... On the other hand, he uses space well, has a great knack for the single shot counter, decent power, sturdy beard and will never let anyone look good against him, even when he's obviously losing.

    Regarding Monzon v Hagler, it's a close call. I think in Briscoe and Valdez, Monzon beat a lot of the factors Hagler brought to the table. And Hagler had trouble against several lesser luminaries... Monzon arrived to the ring with great consistency, always in shape, always giving a championship effort. You don't go 80 or so fights undefeated by accident.
     
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  14. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Monzon. Just above MMH.
     
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  15. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler, because he had a little bit of everything. The speed and the skill to work his way in and out of Monzon's range, all the while gradually working the body with effective punching. He had the technical abilities to rival those of Hopkins, and also the physical abilities and tenacity to wear him out.
     
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