Out of ten how do you rate Hayes chances of beating Wlad?

Agreed.

 

Haye struggled agaisnt Fragomeni and Mormeck as the were small, hard punching fighters. when haye fights guy taller than him, like Gurov and Macceranelli, he blows them out in 1-2 rounds.

Chagaev is awkward, has a rock solid chin, is a good boxer, and a southpaw. he was a top class amateur.

Wlad is tall, and has a dodgy chin. Hayes nest shot of beat wlad is hitting him with

if i had to put the current H/Ws in order of difficulty for Haye.

1.Chagaev (southpaw, strong chin, awkard, good skill)
2. Povetkin (small, awkward, skillfull, big puncher)
3. Tua (fast hands, amazing chin, huge puncher)
4.Toney (hugley skillful, small, defensive master, solid chin)
5. Arreola (fast, small, big puncher)
6. Wlad (skillful, strong jab)
7 .Valuev (HUGE)
8. Peter (HUGE Puncher, fast hands)
9. Gomez (skillfull, awkward)
10. Skelton (solid chin)

 

Well if Wlad is 6 on your list thats pretty much 6 guys that are near certain to KO him.

It's nothing to do with being small or big anyway. It just so happens that Mormeck is the best guy he's faced, and Maccarinelli/Gurov are not all that regardless of being tall.

Vitali would be the toughest fight for Haye, bar none. Technically skilled, heavy hands and a rock solid chin.

 

Yes I think he would, depending on what he's got left.

 

I can see peter roughing haye up on the inside, i can't see klit roughing him up, just knocking himout.Is that any clearer ? Haye's chance with peter imo is at arms length, where as with klit, i cant see any. He imo will not get past the jab and if he does he meets the right. I get the feeling if haye had'nt ran his mouth off so much, people would'nt be thinkin his sparkin klit..Gettin sucked in in other words...No offence

 

So you are pretty much backing up exactly what I said. That's because its so ****ing obvious that a chimp could watch Samuel "Goat Hearder" Peter, Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye and come to the conculusion the Ukranian likely to be a much sterner test.

To be honest, that goes for the rest of the division, not just Samuel Peter a.k.a. goat hearder. I can't believe I find myself defending Wlad. I know he's boring, not very black and is a doctor of sport, but he is the best of a horrible bunch. I don't know what sort of analysis comes up with Sam Peter or Chagaev being a harder proposition.

He's much bigger, way better skills, more powerful, and is very difficult to catch clean. Haye can get off first against Peter because he's so slow, and Chagaev who hasn't got a great reach and waits to counter exclusively. You hit the nail on the head, if he gets past a jab he walks into a right hand. That would be the story of the fight, it would take a miracle punch from Haye.

 

yeh, a fit vitali is top of that list. lucky for haye the two toughest heavys (in my opinion) are more likley to get injured than fight.

wlad is only top h/w as no one in the states had heard of chagaev yet.

 

As bad as it is tffp, cause he's british, i cant wait to see him get sparked.Theres no humour or respect comin from him anymore. I remember him sitting on the ring apron after getting stopped by thompson.Thompson had to reign him in for being a little cocky, even in a loss. Massive head, even in defeat

 

I hope the fight happens sooner rather than later, haye needs shutting up.I can remember haye sitting at ring apron with thompson, he needed his big mouth reigning in then, even in a loss, which thompson did quite easily..

 

I rate his chances at 4 by the way.

 

cant see haye getting past wlads jab to be honest and even if he does that big old right paw of his will soon make haye think about getting past his jab again.

oh i gave him a 3 ( theres always a chance of a lucky shot )

 

4 - that's about all I could give Haye at the moment.

 

yes vitali would be an absoute nightmare for haye. personally i think at the moment haye has about 3 in 10 chance of beating wlad, he has the speed and power but like its already been said wlads defence is superior and he has an awesome jab theres no doubt about that. all depends if haye can land flush enough times to stop the bug guy.



as for haye-vitali i give haye 0 out of 10 chance

 

I voted three.


There are factors here that alot of people seem to be missing.

1. People say Hate is a great boxer......but so too is Wlad, better infact remember he IS an olympic Gold medalist.

2. People talk of Hayes power, again what about Wlad? Wlads KO % is awesome plus he is used to fighting heavies.

3. People say once Haye lands on Wlads dodgy chin its goodnight. Well yes i could see tis if it wasnt for Haye being knocked down off a super middleweight, rocked of a non punching Italian, stopped of a supposidly weak champuion in Thompson, and down and hurt badly by a decent but not spectacular puncher in Mormeck.

Also every time Haye has gone down he went down as though he'd been shot, legs gone, etc.

I have a feeling Wlad will go out to hurt Haye and hurt him early. And i cant wait for Haye at the weigh in because he's always talking about his muscles and he will be looking at a very powerful, well buit and ultimatley bigger man in Wlad and i think it might just dawn on him that he may have ****ed up on this one.

 

I'd give Haye about a 6/7 out of 10 chance