Outback fight club SBS 8.30 tonight

Ty, let me just go back over that chronology. So you say that the 2nd Crampton in '94 fight was your 7th fight, your 2nd Crowe fight in '95 was your 14th fight and you had around 40 fights by the time you fought Ben for the 3rd time in '96. Now, if what you're saying is correct that your last fight with Ben took place a year before Ben turned pro, you're alleged record should contain some 20-25 fights between your 2nd Crowe fight in '95 and Feb '96. :gsg I think you've been telling porky pies.

**** you're a sad **** trying to put **** on Ben's pro career. Ben turned pro at 19 and fought as a pro 27 times, fighting for our country's highest title and the Commonwealth title in England. You've done nothing. Zero.

According to your supposed record, you would've had around 50 fights when you went up to Cessnock to fight a 1 minute round fight. Are you for real? Anyone who's had 40 or 50 fights (as you claim to have had) shouldn't be having a sook about fighting 2 minute rounds and they definitely shouldn't be spewin' up afterwards.

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as long as your proud of your efforts n happy with wat u achieved no need to worry bout / justify it to anyone!!!


u probs wouldnt remember Ben but i've come into our change room once in the ast to use your facilities as well lol. It was jst before u fought Jamie Waru n i fought on the am part of the card got a bloody nose n was tryin to clean up after at the sinks in the toilets n someone who im assuming was with u told me to just come have a showe in your change room haha.
I won tat fight though desite the blood!!

 

Heres one bloke who thinks it has saved lives.

[url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/boxing/how-tent-boxing-has-saved-joe/story-e6freygr-1225984732222[/url]

 

It's easy to align the dying art of tent boxing with notions of thuggery and barbarism. It's also wrong.

For it ignores the subtlety of Sweeney deliberately taking a hit to the stomach, or worse, to keep an opponent in their matches. Or slapping a bare-chested rival because the sound is far more ferocious than any impact.

Sweeney has only ever iced one opponent. Seriously injured none. For what future does a tent boxer have if he continually destroys opponents who pay $25 for the privilege?"The day I became a tent boxer, it meant I was no longer a mug," Sweeney insists. "I'm a fighter but, more than that, I'm an entertainer too.

"I'll never forget the day Fred finally gave me one of his hats with Brophy's Boxing Troupe stitched across the front. I wear the bloody thing everywhere. Because wearing that hat ... yeah, I reckon it means you're somebody."

[url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/boxing/how-tent-boxing-has-saved-joe/story-e6freygr-1225984732222[/url]

 

Heres a bit of tent boxing history.

Jimmy Sharman: The Sharman Troupe

[url]http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A110591b.htm[/url]


SHARMAN, JAMES (1887-1965), boxer and showman, was born on 20 June 1887 at Narellan, New South Wales, fifth of thirteen children of locally born parents James Sharman, labourer, and his wife Caroline, née Brailsford. Leaving school at about 12, he took a labouring job on a dairy farm and soon after began fighting in boxing tents at annual district shows. At Campbelltown in 1906 he won £11 16s. in a sideshow fight. Cured of farm-work forever, he ran away from home and won himself a reputation as a fighter among the shearers of the Cowra district before being sent back by the police. He took a job at Cataract dam and continued fighting in crudely erected rings with makeshift equipment. A southpaw lightweight with a heavy punch, he claimed to have won all but one of his seventy-eight bouts in 1908-12.
In 1912 a £500-a-side fight with Jack Carter at Wagga Wagga, about which conflicting accounts are given, boosted his reputation. That year on 22 April he married Violet Eileen Olive Byrne at Narrandera with Roman Catholic rites. He became a promoter at the Star Theatre, Temora, before fulfilling a long-standing ambition to run his own tent show.
The Sharman Troupe took to the roads of the Riverina and by 1915 was well established at agricultural shows, Sharman's gravel-voiced cry 'Who'll take a glove?' becoming his trademark. For over forty years Sharman took his troupe around eastern Australia, at first by train and from the 1930s by motor truck, visiting forty-five to fifty shows each year, before returning to his base at Narellan. At Sydney's Royal Easter Show he became the institution of 'Sideshow Alley'; two generations of customers paid their 'two bob' to enter his big tent. Only World War II interrupted his annual ten-month tours; Sharman and his assistant ran a coal and coke business in Melbourne until the war ended.
A member of the Showmen's Guild of Australasia, Sharman took pride in the discipline of his troupe. He insisted on tight contracts, prohibited consumption of alcohol by both performers and spectators, discouraged punch-drunk fighters and opposed colour discrimination. He boasted that many Australian champions began or ended their careers in his tent, including Frank Burns (middleweight champion), Teddy Green (bantamweight), Harry Mack (featherweight), Mickey Miller (bantam and featherweight), George Cook (heavyweight), Jack Hassen (lightweight) and triple titleholders Billy Grime and Jackie Green.
Lightly built with a weatherbeaten face, Sharman remained fit and alert until old age. He died on 18 November 1965 at Camden and was buried with Catholic rites in the Narellan cemetery. His wife and only son Jimmy, who had taken over management of the troupe ten years earlier, survived him. His estate was valued for probate at $192,025.

 

Both Jimmy Wilde & Jim Driscol insisted that tent or booth fighting was an essential part of any aspiring boxers apprenticeship . Tent fighting has been around for a hundred and fifty years and shouldn't be knocked , here in Wales many a family would have perished if it hadn't existed .

 

Try Laurence 'Baby Cassius' Austin just for one Ty - heard of him m8?

As a young kid, 'Cassius' fought none other than Matty Ropis, in Sharman's tent at the Royal Melbourne Show years ago.

Just in case you don't know, 'Cass' went on to win Australian & Commonwealth titles m8.

 

Lawrence (Baby Cassius) Austin was one of the best in his era he did not establish himself in tents before turning pro. Next please?

 

Austin was a kid at the time and the tent was both an opportunity for him to earn a quid with his boxing and a stepping stone in his boxing career.

That day at the Show Grounds 'Cass' beat Matty Ropis, a guy who would himself go on to pro boxing success winning Australian titles on more than one occassion.

Nice try Ty, but as usual the facts aren't in your favour m8!

 

Ropis and Austin fought each other as pros a couple of times in the 70s, so what they had one tent fight as kids? does this qualify as doing an apprentiship and establishing yourself in the tents before becoming a success in the pro boxing world? it does not. You are grasping at straws here.

Its simple, you show me a bloke whos had atleast 20 tent fights and then went on to become a sucess in the proffesional ranks and ill shut up, you cant do this so dont try make bullsht up and twist sht to suit your agenda. Rather jump around all over the shop lets try to stick to this important fact.

 

Now it's at least 20 fights!

You truly are ESB's very own rolled gold idiot Ty.

If we find out 'Cass' had 20 tent fights will you accept that dumbo?

 

How many fights would you like it to be? Established would mean more than one fight and not a novice so thats atleast 5+ fights, surely someone whos established themselfs in tent fights and become a sucess in boxing has had more than a hand full of tent fights?

you claim its boxings insitution for aprentiship to be done, im asking you what boxer has completed this aprentiship and went on to become a sucess? I will tell you mate, its NONE.

 

I don't want to wade into the dark side of this but sometimes we indulge too much in theory because erradication guarantees zero problems,,in this case, in tents.

Tent fighting was testing grounds for anyone who thought he could fight.

Geez, when I was in primary school at Port Kembla, every year, Teacher Connolly had a tournament. Nothing official. Just a ring formed by kids. 16 Oz gloves & all volunteers.There was no bullies at that school.

For those who loved the sport without the intesity of full on training but just a few short rounds, tent fighting fills the bill.

A hell of a lot of carrying is done. It's entertainment.
Knocking an easy opponent out would get the wrath of Sharman.
If a bloke can really fight, it'll be on, but these blokes know just about every good fighter on their route.

I think you need to be a bit more attached to the whole spectrum of what it provides before we write it off "because it's dangerous"

"A round or two for a pound or two"
I loved/love it.

JMO

 

Show me where I said the

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bit highlighted above m8.

What you plainly don't know is that many boxers, particularly aboriginal boxers, DID get their start in the tent, and DID go on to successful pro careers.

As usual you'll be shot down by the truth Ty.

 

i think it was boxcon that said it CHB. Your right i dont know about all these boxers who established themselfs in tents and then went on to have a succesfull career and thus i have been asking the question?. I would have thought that a guy whos won 1000 tent fights and all wins would have went on to become quite a sucess in the pro ranks but this simply is not the case when we review the pro record of guys like the Cowboy.


Pops, i enjoyed reading that. Just one question m8, why was it banned? i havent looked into it and dont know the answer but i assume its because it was deemed to be unsafe?