OUTBOXED - Marquez vs Pacquiao 3 or Sergio Martinez vs Julio Cesar Chavez jr?

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  1. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Defeat an opponent by superior boxing ability, Which of these fights was a great performance by OUT BOXING the other opponent?



    Martinez vs Chavez jr

    Sergio Martinez outboxed, outpunched and outclassed his younger opponent for 11 rounds. He used movement to frustrate him and gave him no openings to get into a rhythm.
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    Marquez vs Pacquiao 3

    Close decisions in all combat sports are often riddled with controversy. In a lot of cases, passionate fans and even some pundits waste no time throwing the word "robbery" out there.
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  2. Saccowalace

    Saccowalace GOAT Full Member

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    Martinez Chavez no question
     
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  3. Florez

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    Impressive Performance by Martinez, gave Chavez jr a Boxing lesson!
    Wasn't even Close!     :good
     
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  4. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Pacquiao >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chavez Jr.


    Martinez v Chavez Jr was more one sided. But Pacquiao is levels upon levels above Jr.
     
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  5. Florez

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    But Chavez isn't on Pac's level but still very Impressive by Martinez.
     
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  6. Florez

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  7. AnthonyW

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    I don't think you quite understood.

    Pacquiao is levels clear of Chavez Jr (I'll also state that Marquez >>>>>> Martinez, but that's not relevant). Outboxing or displaying your skills against a highly skilled boxer and picking up a competitive win is greater than outboxing or displaying your skills against a limited boxer.

    Not taking away anything from Martinez's victory, he beat what was in front of him. But...

    Marquez-Pacquiao >>>>>>>>> Martinez-Chavez Jr.
     
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  8. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed with Anthony.

    Pacquiao is lightyears ahead of Chavez jr, the array of skills used by Marquez was imo greater than Martinez's against JCCjr. Simple as that
     
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  9. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with this but did Pacquiao got Out Boxed by Marquez?
    It's a close fight, it wasn't like Marquez was dominating Pac like Martinez.
     
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  10. agila2004a

    agila2004a Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pls put the post-fight face of martinez and marquez to complete your post.
     
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  11. ROG

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    Stop your crying butthurt Mexicans and Chicanos, you get your last chance on December to KO or to win convincingly vs Pacroid.
     
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  12. Royal-T-Bag

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    Marquez and Martinez both had great performances where they outboxed their opponents.... the difference was the level of opponent. Marquez deserves more credit as Pac is eons above JC Jr in class even though Martinez more clearly outboxed Chavez.

    Either way though to answer your question both are perfect examples of outboxing someone. Sergio being more dominant vs a weaker foe should have no bearing on this.
     
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  13. Doc

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    Marquez beat another Fellow P4P and easily outboxed him.

    Martinez outboxed a so called Protected hype fighter who was nothing more then a name was the general concensus...

    Marquez's win carries more weight.
     
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  14. Mega Lamps

    Mega Lamps Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chavez was also arguably a cruiserweight in there, while Pac-Marquez was at least close.
     
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  15. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even minus the "post-fight facial evidence" everybody who have seen both fights will agree that it's Martinez, simply bec it was utter domination.
    JMM had tons of moments against Pac but did have good rounds too.
     
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