Outside of peak Roided Mike Tyson, Usyk beats everyone else in history ?????

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk and Loma represent everything that is good about boxing there is no reason not to like them.
    It is mainly insecure fans of other fighters that pray for their downfall.
     
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  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Usyk would struggle with Holyfield, Ibeabuchi, Tyson, Ali, Bowe, Norton etc imo
     
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  3. tarrant45

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    Didn't he struggle with a 38 year old Chisora? How does beating a past it Fury and over hyped AJ suddenly mean you arguably beat every HW in history?
     
  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He might struggle but he would win.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah, they're both pure class in and out of ring and true legacy fighters and honourable fighting men who believe in a fair fight and seek out the best on a deck stacked against them or a level one at worst but they're despised by many
     
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  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also: Russian trolls.
     
  7. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Tyson never failed a drug test.
     
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  8. Philosopher

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    I have never seen evidence of either being 'despised'. AJ, Fury, Dubois on the other hand? Have you read the way many speak about them....?
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You should venture over to social media. Many have hated Loma with a vengeance since he turned pro. Usyk doesn't receive the same level of hate but many are desperate to see him lose even though, like Loma he represents everything right and great about the sport. and does everything anyone could ask of a fighter, things their some of their favs and heroes categorically refused to ever do once and he doesn't do all the bad things their favs did so often.

    These clowns have a million excuses and context for the losses or poor performances of their favs but they dismiss and refuse to acknowledge a single shred of it when it comes to Loma and Usyk.

    And there's a big difference between hating on fighters who actually do or have done things or many things that warrant criticism and fans hating on them and those who give them no ammunition to do so
     
  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nothing good about fighting once a year. It robs fans of all the big fights that would happen if they were more active. The fact they get a pass for this with some people is ridiculous.

    To make things worse they wasted their times on plenty of unnecessary fights that added little to their legacies.
     
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  11. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    I have no social media presence man so wouldnt know. I use this boxing forum and maybe two car ones these days. Never had Facebook, dont use tiktok or twitter or whatever it's called and never have, never will. So I can only base my comments on my experience and on the platforms I use I have only seen respect for Loma and Usyk. I sometimes think people mistake genuine criticism as 'hating'. I dont think Usyk is a top ten heavyweight or p4p fighter, but he is clearly the best of his generation. Does that make me a hater?
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's for the best

    There's plenty on here who either don't like, rate or respect Loma and if someone like Inoue or one of their other favs was subjected to the same treatment as him regarding legacy defining fights over in the US their outrage would be deafening.

    Some pretend to like, rate or respect Usyk too but it's patently obvious they don't.

    Don't have a problem with genuine criticism but completely ignoring all context and just being nasty little ***** under the guise of voicing ''genuine criticism'' is not the same

    No
     
  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Both Usyk and Loma have achieved more in less than half the amount of fights as some of the other highly regarded elites.
    This "getting a pass" crap is just cope from insecure fans. Usyk and Loma are literally two of the best from this generation and have never avoided any challenge. Any fights they had that were considered a waste of time was due to the fact that the other top fighters didn't want a bar of them.
     
  14. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighting once a year by definition results in many challenging opponents being missed. You can't clean out a division fighting so infrequently.

    Why should anyone care about Usyk or Lomas career if they can't be bothered to fight more than once a year?

    Imagine LeBron playing one basketball game per year or Djokovic one tennis match a year. It's outrageous
     
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  15. mrbigshot

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    I would also like to get an honest opinion why many users here are fans of a guy who went hw pro in 2019 , has accounted since then just 5 opponents , obviously ducks parker and kabayel , ducks fighting at all when he can , manouvers around mandatory title dfences and makes a story out of it .

    He was very good at CW but this HW story is just a joke .
     
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