Outside of the top 3 HW's, does this era have the best ever HW's outside the elite?

Speaking of fatties, I would bet the farm Odlanier Solis would whip the **** out of Haye....again.

 

I'm guessing teh thread starter is a younger person that has only been alive to see this era, and therefore thinks it's got to be the best. This era sucks, very, very little real talent outside the Klits.

I grew up in the 90'sand I can't comment aboout era's before(although I think 85-90 was real weak outside 1 guy) but most the guys on his list wouldn't have been on anything other than USA Tuesday Night fights. I'd take Jimmy Thunder over most of them.

 

Jimmy Thunder would kick the arse of most of the guys on that list. He was actually prepared to fight live bodies.

It's one thing to say "oh, look, Povetkin is 31-0".

So what? He bottled it when mando against Wlad. At 31 years of age, he "wasn't ready". Absolute horse****. 31 years old and he's not ready.

The reason those guys have good records, is becuase these days a fighter that's 22-0 (after fighting 22 scrubs) is considered better than a guy that might be 22-3, even if those 3 fights might have been against the best 3 guys in the division.

 

What era do you want to go back to?

There's nobody on that list that holds a candle to Tua or Ike when they fought as "young heavyweights".

If those guys actually fought each other now and again, they may improve a bit.


Tho I don't know why I'm responding to an obvious alt.....

 

This says it all really.

The top 3 Heavyweights next bouts are...Wlad v Chisora, Vitali v Briggs, and Haye v Harrison.

These 3 bouts tell you everything you need to know about this era.

 

Harrison is ranked 13 I believe...Chisora is not ranked I don't think...yet you rate him better than Henry Cooper? What has he done yet that makes him "better" than Henry Cooper?

Wlad v Chisora is not a money making bout...he will generate the usual money he generates in Germany, etc...but nothing substantial in Britain. The fact that he has had to get in contact with Mormeck and signed for a bout with Chisora shows how bad this era is.

 

Any 'real fan of boxing' knows that it doesn't work that way. Example, Boxer A beat Boxer C, who beat Boxer B...which means Boxer A would beat Boxer B. It doesn't work like that.

And when have I tried to defend Haye v Harrison?

So you say Haye is giving Harrison an undeserved shot at the title (which I agree with you on)...yet Chisora has earned his title shot? At least Harrison has picked up a European title...but both don't deserve a shot.

Also, you havn't answered why you rate Chisora ahead of Cooper...

 

TS has a point the gatekeepers in this era are as good as most bar the 90s and 70s.

Smaller men like Cooper likely wouldnt compete today but there wasnt really the knowledge of how to add muscle back then so its a bit of an unfair comparison. If Cooper bulked up like Adamek he'd be pretty much as competitive

 

just because you have a "belt" especially a wba belt it means nothing, its what you do with it when you win it

 

audley from 2005 to 2007 lost 3 out of 5 fights :-(

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had 3 fights

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beat 1 guy who had 10 losses :nut

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2009 he had 3 fights, one night in that prize fighter
1 guy had 10 pro fights
1 guy had 6 pro fights
1 guy was 10-2 :huh:-(

which brings us to his last fight....32 win 14 loss michael sprott was putting a beating on him the entire fight.....he was losing more than his ass....lucky punch, he wins......good for him

so all he does is get beat by average fighters....or wins against near amateurs with no experience... i know you think that Euro belt means something...but if 1 guy fighting for it just recently lost to a 10-0 cab driver and his opponent has 14 losses and has lost 4 out of his last 6 :rofl
u should be able to figure out why its a JOKE :deal

 

Once again...were did I defend the Haye v Harrison bout? :huh

It's not as if I typed, 'The Haye v Harrison bout is acceptable, but the Wlad v Chisora bout isn't'...they are both joke bouts.

 

Cooper at his oldest lost a controversial decision against Joe Bugner over 15 rounds
Bugner was able to go 39 rounds with Ali and Frazier without being stopped.
I would fancy Bugner against the majority of the names listed and wouldnt rule out Henry Cooper either