Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Boxingiq2020, Mar 5, 2023.
The **** kinda question is this??
The answer is Lee Selby
Lennox and it isn’t even close
I voted for Joe ( never lost , LL got ko,d twice )
Both were great fighters. Joe was unbeaten for a reason.Bad night, bad hands, low confidence, he won fights. He was dropped, buzzed, but he won every fight. Joe was an awesome fighter, so was Lennox. I have Joe as the greater fighter, faster than lightening and as tough as they come. Just my opinion, but like I say, he was unbeaten for a reason.
Do you rate Sven Ottke over Roy Jones?
I'd counter that by saying that perhaps an undefeated fighter in part is undefeated because they didn't fight enough quality opponents. Calzaghe is indeed a great fighter but his resume does not match his ability unfortunately and he in part is to blame for that. It's easier to remain undefeated when you are not being tested regularly, much harder to remain undefeated if you are fighting one competitive fight after another.
Why? You care about undefeated so much.
That’s a solid point. Joe passed his tests when given them, Lennox didn’t. Lennox got his revenge, but it took two attempts against fighters, and I mean no disrespect, who weren’t exactly top tier.
I agree. But LL did not lose to the top guys. He did redeem himself nicely in the rematches tho.
Sometimes fighters lose to fighters they shouldn't even great ones, like Ali vs Spinks, Duran vs Laing, Morales vs Raheem, Tyson vs Douglas etc. Hence why I said that if you remain undefeated it suggests your resume is lacking depth which Calzaghe's clearly does considering how long he was a champion.
You can't be 100% all of the time and get away with it if you operate at a high level. There's a reason why fighters with the deepest resumes often have losses. Holyfield the best resume of the top 90's heavies but also the most losses, Bowe the fewest losses but also the worst resume of the top 90's heavies.
True, Lewis could be complacent at times that's pretty clear, but when he did have to step up and fight the best he often raised his level and dominated, like vs Ruddock, Golota and Holyfield 1. When he wasn't the clear favourite he was often at his best but also when he was the clear favourite he tended to be at his worst.