I know it's not as high as BB's but I mean it is getting up there. BB's don't really use simple Testosterone any more either, tested athletes do as it is out of the system relatively quickly. My point is that 14:1 is above the levels required for performance enhancement and is into pure BB territory as in purely cosmetic benefits. But thinking about it the better the physique the more $ these guys seem to earn so it's understandable in that sense. But 14:1 is impossible to explain or even put up some kind of defence so the risk of taking that much outweighs any reward surely?
Plenty of BB's take Testosterone. Most of the synthetic hormones contain it. Either way a normal man has a level of 1:1. If you ask me the ratio should be much lower than 6:1. Some commissions have it as low as 4:1. Guys can have a ratio of 6:1 and lower and still be abusing. A simple blood test would completely annihilate the issue. And the higher the ratio the better the performance broadly speaking. Thus it's not just only for cosmetic benefits in the BB sense. In simplistic terms NO MAN can look like Overeem without some serious PED use. Its simply impossible. Overeem only has himself to blame. As he would have been aware of these so called 'random' tests before he was tested.
Fighters getting caught isn't so much the problem - Sugar Shane, James Toney, Roy Jones, Sherk, OVereem, Silva, Sonnen etc The problem is, they get caught and they don't give a flying **** about the consequences. They pay their fine, serve their time and know the people will buy into them again. The commissions need to get ****ing tough on them. BOOM, banned for life. Sure, a number of careers will go right down the drain but that is the price the few must pay for the many to learn!
How much is the fine? Something silly like $5000 if I remember correctly for Sonnen EDIT It's $2500, from the 1st article on Google, that's a ****ing joke
How does that make any sense? PED abuse in ANY form is cheating. The reality is the UFC doesn't care. And never will as it would hurt its business immensely. They just keep up the pretence or their moral stance and most of the fans like good Lemmings lap it up. Whats the point in pointing the finger at the commissions when most of the major promoters, especially the UFC are in bed with the commission? The commissions are hardly arbitrary. They're pay masters are the promoters so there's an obvious conflict of interest.
I said 'pure test'. I know guys that have done so much juice they consider Test a supplement almost. It's what they cut their teeth on before they get into stacking the 'designer steroids' 6:1 is only a Nevada thing, hmm I wonder why that is? Fight capital of the world, been 6:1 limit there long before MMA was around, so boxing is clean is it? TRT is complete bull****. Because it's administered by a DR it seems to get a free pass, what's the difference? These guys are changing the natural chemistry of their body by upping Test levels. It is legal cheating and should be viewed no differently to banging gear you got from a dodgy guy in the gym.
Some **** weak $2300 or there abouts and a year ban. Means nothing as the fighter can fight over seas or in another state where the ban isn't enforced anyway. Once they serve their ban its business as usual. Like iv said umpteen times Dana nor the UFC gives a ****. The status quo is "Just dont get caught".
A bit of a moot point no? As all pro BB's are on stacks. No one takes just one hormone. They take a ton of shite.
Nah, be hilarious if it was but it's probably the no show during the Brock fight. Half their stable is on gear anyway. Be burning the barn down because the horse has bolted And they'd be outta 'horse meat'
GG don't give a ****. The tests aren't random anyway. The fighters know about them before hand. Remember Bas Ruttens reaction a few years ago when asked about Overeems horse meat diet? More like horse ****... The problem Overeem has is, he's on the big stage and thus because under the UFC he's under far more scrutiny. In Japan it didn't matter. Even in SF it would have been small fry. You cannot go from a twiglet 205 to 265lbs shredded. Have the physique of a pro BB and expect not to be under a microscope. He should have stayed his lazy ass in DREAM.
Half? Id say the whole of GG was on gear. Overeem didnt even submit the sample in the states. He went back home and did it. The whole thing is a ****ing farce. Reminds me of when PRIDE came to the US and Randleman submitted a sample that didn't even contain human hormones. The whole of HammerHouse was a 'juice' factory anyway.
I thought this was was a surprise and unscheduled test. Weren't they at a press conference or something?
Just to clarify - people always talk about changing the testing, which I agree we should test as much as possible but that isn't the main issue. Fighters don't care about getting caught, they are all risking it. They know once they get caught, they can make up some excuses like Chael and Overeem and then come back. UFC aren't so bad. They test their fighters before signing. They know the commission test pre and post fight, including a random. When a country doesn't have a commission, I believe the UK, they run the tests themself. I believe they caught someone while doing that. I bet Will Cooling will know the details.
Thats what the UFC would like you to believe. The fighters know roughly when they're going to be tested. Anyone that gets caught is on a lazy cycle. Thats why Dana is sooo pissed as Overeem would have known before hand. Either cycle off or get some blockers. Gear can aromatise in a few days. Overeem was simply lazy. Nothing more or less.
