Overrated Big Punchers?

I agree, his power does not show up in the ring

 

He may have, Lyle was not an elite puncher but he did have Foreman down and hurt terribly several times in the fight. Sometimes the harder punches numb you, you dont feel them but your body shuts off

Lyle had size and built but he was overrated as a puncher but that does not mean you would want to get hit by him or Schultz

 

Marciano early on loaded up with everything, you can not catch everyone with a Sunday punch so they taught him how to bunch in bunches and load up sporadically like he did vs Charles in fight 1 but everyone Marciano caught with a clean punch usually went down or out. When you cant get the button, hit the arms, shoulders,stomach and neck and keep punching but he took people out with one punch with both the hook and the right

 

Itsa I did not suggest or imply there cdan be no conversation.
You still do not understand me.

Those things all SHOULD be taken into consideration-in terms of boxing skills & effectiveness of punches.

But the words, & seeming intent of this thread, "big punchers" refer to fo9rce generated.
They do not mean how good one is, how skilled, effective, etc...

"Greatest punchers" usually includes these other factors.

"But the "Biggest puncher" may be a 2nd rate fighter or often not get the KO.

Now if one specifies biggest puncher measured by effectiveness, that is another matter.

Thoretically someone could miss 99% of his blows, but if when he connects it applies more force than anyone else,--->He is the biggest puncher.

 

I watched Lyle train back in 74. The guy had a hellacious right hand. He was an elite right hand puncher. Lyles main issue was speed and he tended to fade down the stretch.

 

Michael Katsidis. He smothers his own work and is never first in any exchange.

Arthur Abraham - no doubt an insanely physically strong guy but he waits an entire fight to get warmed up. He seems so coiled up late in his career. Every once in a while he shows that power - Miranda, Jermain Taylor, Steiglitz fourth bout but often he is waiting waiting and nothing happens.

 

Vitali

 

Kendall Holt. Had a fantastic dynamite left hook yet at the top level it was no where to be seen.

 

No he is very overated who did he ko?

 

Mac Foster.

 

Regarding heavyweights to me the most devastating guys were Louis and Tyson,none were better at getting opponents out of there,they very rarely let anyone off the hook.
However as Entaowed as stated they're not necessarily the hardest punchers in terms of pure force.

 

Didnt he drop Bradley a couple of times? something Pacqiauo didnt/couldnt do.

 

Yes you are right in the 1st and the 12th but so many lapses inbetween. One punch he floors Bradley. You think wow theres that power, he can back him up no issue and stalk him. Nope Bradley just gets up and punches with him and really outfought him in most of the rounds. Usually if a fighter has that one killer weapon, its enough and should consistently threaten but for Holt the left hook is killing you and the other guy is barely alive then the rest of the fight nothing happens.

I might be nit-picking here. Maybe it was his finishing ability or his power was a matter of timing but his power seemed inconsistent in a single fight. Take for example Razor Ruddock his left uppercut was always there every single round 1-12 and could stun any moment it doesnt seem like that with Holt. aalthough when it lands that one time you think damn this guy has the power to crunch anyone.