Overrated Punching Power

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by sas6789, Jul 12, 2012.


  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many times do u Xpect a 22 years old prospect 2 get stopped prior 2 his 1st title shot ?
    And Baek wasn't very good either .
    I believe i meant d 2nd Kalambay fight . I watched them both , but 1ce each . Jackson's victories did not come against formidable opposition .
    There is no argument about Jackson being a harder puncher than most in p4p terms , but he's started 2 become n almost unanimous pick as d hardest puncher and i doubt it .
     
  2. Box-Fan

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    It took a lot longer than i thought but someone has jumped out at me. I never said Benn wasn't a hard hitter, i'm just saying some people go on like he had the one punch power to ko anybody at his weight, but he did not. He didn't show big one punch power against top calibre opposition like say Jackson, Bob foster or Hamed (to a lesser extent did). I know he had 3 good stoppage wins agains DeWtrt Barkley and Mcclellan, but it has to be said he got away with quite a lot of dirty tatics against the latter 2, and i'm not sure i'd quite rate DeWitt as top calibre opposition. And before you say i'm being biased, i'm British and i was actually a fan of Benn. As for Eubank calling him the hardest puncher he fought, he has changed his story about that because i've read interviews with him in the past where he has said Calzaghe was the hardest puncher he fought.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's true that Shavers is extremely highly rated as a puncher by everyone, but I think there's good reason for it. Perhaps you could say that his greatness is overrated, but I don't see how it can be denied that his power was something truly special.
     
  4. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ive never seen Eubank call Calzaghe the hardest hitter he faced but loads of interviews raving about Benn's power.
    And the Barkley fight was unreal, you could see how hard those shots were, dirty tactics or not.They were nearly lifting the bigger man off his feet.
     
  5. Box-Fan

    Box-Fan Active Member Full Member

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    I certainly have, and where have i ever said Benn didn't hit hard? I'm merely saying there have been harder punchers around.
     
  6. ron u.k.

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    I think with Benn it was more the frenzied assaults he launched,and in amongst that 2 or 3 of those shots took fighters out.
     
  7. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who said anything different?
     
  8. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know Benn's power is even being debated. He is one the most violent punchers that I've ever seen. Louis and Jackson should not be in conversation either. Rockaby Ruben was even mentioned. Lmao.
     
  9. lora

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    Olvares IS often relatively overestimated for sheer power.Doesn't mean he wasn't a great one though and a superbly efficient overall knockout artist.Of course he was.


    What he wasnt , was a devastating one punch guy.No hearns, Foster, Jackson, or even arguello or Louis in that regard, but ive known plenty of chumps who would laugh at you for putting him on the level of Gomez, Trinidad, Duran etc in that area between a pure heavy handed accumulation man and a reasonably consistent one-punch hitter.Which is where anyone that has watched his fights and isnt a Mexican fanboy should be able to see he belongs.

    The man couldn't even one punch a weight drained soft jawed Lionel Rose.

    Zamora was the best one punch man of the Mexican bantams of that era imo, or at least of the especially notable world class ones.Watch both these guys fights against second and third tier fighters where they were always going to win and you can just concentrate on the style of knockout they attain.Olivares often still has to grind a bit despite landing plenty of his best, but zamora even though he won't look as good and will get hit more\be involved in more back and forth because of being the inferior overall fighter of the two, obviously has more effect on the opponent when he lands near his best.
     
  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Liston.

    Don´t get me wrong here, please. He was a great puncher.......but I don´t see Liston in the same level as Tyson, Foreman and even Baer as far as power goes......
     
  11. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a bit odd, DeWitt fought Hearns and i'd say he was at least as hard a puncher as Benn. But i guess he's a better judge seing as he fought them both :good
     
  12. Senor Pepe'

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    Mac Foster

    A good crisp-puncher, but he was not a vicious hitting guy.

    Mac had alot of 'knockout wins, but not truly 'knockouts'.

    He did turn down bouts with,
    * {1968}.. George Chuvalo
    * (1969)... Leotis Martin
    * (1970)... Oscar Bonavena
    * (1971)... Jimmy Ellis
    * (1972)... Larry Middleton
    * (1973)... Jeff 'Candy Slim' Merrit
    * (1973)... Jerry Quarry II (Rematch)
    * (1974)... Ken Norton
    * (1974)... Henry Clark
    * (1974)... Roy 'Tiger' Williams
    * (1975)... Duane Bobick
     
  13. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who were the hitters that hit harder than Benn at SMiddle?
     
  14. ashl3y72

    ashl3y72 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Chavez SR? It seems like in almost every fantasy fight below 140 people pick him by KO :huh
     
  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Julian Jackson, Earnie Shavers and Bob Foster ... wow ! :nut