Overrated Punching Power

That were not professional boxers. I can't cook beans but I can tell when food is rotten.

 

Although fighters are often biased and have short memories,we know that Holmes,Ali,Norton and Lyle gave Shavers and edge over Foreman but Holyfield gave Foreman the edge over Lewis,Tyson and Bowe punch for punch that is.

 

Funny you mention that. Right after the Vitali fight,Briggs said Vitali hit harder but in a recent interview he said it was Foreman again so I'm not sure what the deal is but we know Vitali and Foreman were strong mother****ers.

at 3:09 Briggs talks hardest hitters

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I'll go out on a limb here and say.....Duran. No, really.

Go ahead and slice me up, but I really believe that. He threw such beautiful flowing combinations that his one-punch power gets overstated at times.


Yes, he did have one-punch KO's from time to time, and yes, he carried some power to the higher weights, but overrated overall. Which I might add speaks rather highly of his combination punching, for whatever that's worth.

 

Lets say the majority of people rated Howard Davis Jr, Willie Pep and Bernard Taylor as monstrous punchers. The similar majority rated Julian Jackson, bob Foster and Joe Louis as powder puffs.

So we can't pass reasonable judgement based on not having been hit by them?

It tells me (allied to the rest of your post) you really aren't much fun. We may as well shut down 3/4 of the forum.

It also tells me you don't actually know who posts in here :yep

 

Absolutely!:good

 

Shavers was shorter than Foreman and hence was at a better position 2 ewach their chins . He also was a better puncher technically meaning he had a much better single punch delivery . Foreman's technique was also meant 2 prevent d opponent from hitting back .
Of course Shavers was a harder puncher than most if not all heavyweights
of his era Xcept maybe Foreman and maybe a few others (not sure who) , but not d hardest puncher in history , no way .
Ali's chin is so overrated but what isn't overrated about him ? true Ali was tougher after he lost most of his speed b/c he trained on it , but his toughness is still Xaggerated . Ali's did not want 2 quit vs Frazier in Manilla BTW , he told Mirena 2 cut his gloves because he wanted & needed another Cooper lucky break .
However Mirena already shot that rocket against Cooper .

How many punchers did Tyson face ? and how many of them managed 2 hit him flush ?
Ruddock may have been 1 of d hardest punchers who ever hit Tyson , i give u this .

Bob Foster had a **** division . No , it wasn't just **** , it was d worst lightheavyweight division ever , if not d worst division ever .
Bob Foster was a Somalian with leverage fighting undersized bums and washed up has beens . Mauro Mina beat him and had him down . Doug Jones , whom was another lightheavy fighting at heavy knocked him out . C how simple it is ?

Real power of course , but overrated .
Tyson was raised 2 use elbows because his trainers knew that he couldn't do nearly as much damage by trying 2 land a left hook .
Dempsey cheated against Jack Sharkey which was 1 of his KOs .
Another 1 of his KOs came against Willard from big accumulation of punishment . 2 his credit and 2 b fair , he did KO Tunney in their rematch but was screwed . He didn't KO Gibbons and i know d Xcuse will b that Dempsey was inactive 4 long . He got KOd by d not 2 durable Fireman Jim Flynn . Dempsey was in his time d total hypejob that Ali and Louis R 2day and that Lewis is starting 2 become .


Liston ? he never fought a single durable heavyweight in his career . Cautios Play whom needed Xtra time and smelling salts against Floyd Patterson's KO victim in Henry Cooper and whom was held up only by d ropes vs Doug Jones was not a durable heavyweight . He simply enjoyed Angelo Mirena's art of crime and a contact avoiding style that helped his durability 2b checked less than others' .

 

Only seems logical right?

 

The usual **** from someone too lazy to type complete words out, so he settles for infantile text talk and even more infantile opinions ,in the hope they will arouse interest.

Doug Jones was retired a year before Foster won the title ,you f*****g goon.

From 1962 until 1967 Jones was only once inside the Lhvy limit.


What a load of bollocks you dribble.

 

Regarding fighter's citing who hit them hardest : I think some fighters hit so hard that the opponent never even knows what him them.
Often the fighters remember the guy who hit them a little less hard as the "hardest punch" because they were rocked to their shoes by that punch. They were upright in the ring buzzed and rocking around, thinking "**** ! that punch was unreal"
But when a guy hit them into unconsciousness they don't even remember, they are not sure what happen, "he just caught me a good punch, I guess."

 

Exactly!

This is the very reason why I value the opinions of common opponents and trainers with respect to punch power accolades.

 

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Don't be too harsh on him McVey, but some of his stuff is comical.

Tyson was hit with big shots from Tubbs, Bruno, Ruddock, Lewis and James Smith.

 

Once again you talk a load of d f****** shite.

 

Years ago on the forum and in general yeah, but loads of posters have said similar things sal over the past 2-3 years to the point it seems a lot just consider him a pure accumulation type.

While at the same time stil the vast majority still praising the likes of Wilfredo Gomez, Ruben Olivares, Zarate , Tito as power punchers of the highest order(which all things considered they were of course).

Duran imo belongs on that rough level of power, but that seems to be becoming more and more of a minority viewpoint.IN between the pure accumulation type stoppages men like Chavez and McCallum often got and the consistent one-punch men.He could turn fights on a dime with single shots and combinations at any stage from 1-15 from 130 to 147 and still carried solid power that brought good moments above that.