Overtraining

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Gavin, Sep 22, 2010.


  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Um. Okay...
     
  2. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course if you train hard all the time you won't be ****ed. You will fatigue yourself mentally. Also physically. You can't always train like that. Boxers do training camps although now these days it's different than before but again everyone is different. Tim Tszyu said he used to train, fight, then get fat. Rinse repeat. Not anymore. He's learnt what works for him and he didn't want that toll on his body always going from 0 to 100 back to 0 again ( that's an exaggeration but you get my point ) I reckon as he got older he just got wiser and his priorities changed. He now always wants to be in top shape or close to it. The point is, he was doing camps. Then not being at that peak condition, hence he'd get fat.

    Over exaggeration but what do you think's going to happen if you run 20k's every day? You're going to burn out. The question is when. Not if. Stress levels. Cortisol. Fatigue. Muscle soreness. All that ****. Insomnia which leads to other stuff. Frying your central nervous system. You have to be smart so for example you might do this. And this is just so you get the idea I'm not being specific.

    Monday - Road Work, Bag Work, Drills, Strength and Conditioning
    Tuesday - Road Work, Pads, Sparring
    Wednesday - Swimming, Biking, Medium Weights Session
    Thursday - Road Work, Bag Work, Drills, Light Walk
    Friday - H.I.I.T, PadWork, Strength And Conditioning
    Saturday - Steady Cardio with some intensity, Sparring
    Sunday - Biking, Swimming, Film Study

    I reckon having a day off is B.S. Blood flow is needed. Why get cold and stiff muscles and lack of endorphins. You might have a lighter day where the intensity is way off. But the mind and muscles keep active. Hypothetically speaking wtf wants to lay in bed all day eating food? You feel like **** after a while. Now on the other hand if you training is really revved up, then a day off won't hurt. It literally may be needed. But Again personally I don't find anything positive about just lazing around all day.

    Also a different idea

    Mix up some days where you do less, some days do more. But some days you want to absolutely smash it. Look at what Tank Davis does. Look at Loma. Look at Ryan Garcia and Timmy Tszyu. Those guys sacrafice and push to the max and beyond. Boxing can be a lonely sport and you sacrafice a hell of a lot. Boredom from recovery which mind you is essential but the right way. Stretching and de-stressing.

    Intensity has to be there. But it can't be every single day every single session because you will fatigue and injury will set in. Then yes, it's off putting because it is a choir but let's be honest if you want to really succeed as a boxer then that's your job and you have to do it no matter what.

    But you are human.

    Also you need the right diet and sleep to aid your training.
     
  3. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    for whatever its worth that was me when I tried to begin my training aged 12.
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mr Gadfly Full Member

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    Guys in history fought starving and trained starving. I don’t believe many are training harder then fighters like Jersey Joe Walcott or Jack Dempsey.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To me, mixing easier days and harder days was essential, and also mixing up what you’re doing on some kind of rotation basis.

    Like if you do the same workout every day, you’re fatiguing the same muscles and no matter how you focus (or try to), you’re going to get a bit bored with it which makes you less motivated to get up the next day and do the very same thing.

    In our gym we’d break it up sometimes and do a day of just shadowboxing and sprint cardio from time to time — no hitting any bags, sparring or mitts — and to make it fun we’d get a football and make guys run short routes full-out and play throw-and-catch. Do it until they could hardly walk, but it was always a fun day because it mixed things up.

    Then some days would be sparring days and everyone would get sparring. And some days it was a short workout and send them on a distance run … then when they get back already a bit worn out … short-burst bag work of like ‘how many punches can you throw in 30 seconds/rest 10 seconds/do it again.’ Do that for 10 30-second-rounds. Some days it was more slow-motion technique work and walk-through scenarios (you just got knocked down, here’s what to do; you just broke your hand, here’s what you do; you just got cut, here’s what to do, etc).

    So we wanted to challenge people physically but in different ways and also mix it up so mentally there was a bit of an element of ‘what are we going to do today?’
     
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