Ozell nelson making a diference??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Oscar de la Roa, Dec 27, 2007.


  1. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

    1,540
    0
    Jan 6, 2007
    Do u think nelson being at JT`S corner will make a difference?? I mean maybe he and ES werent a great team and maybe his former trainer will bring the best of him, even if he does i still believe pavlik wins.. he is just in another level...toughts??
     
  2. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,172
    1
    Aug 6, 2007
    How do you think those bad habits started?
     
  3. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

    1,922
    12
    Sep 15, 2005
    Nelson will lead Taylor to victory.

    Taylor TKO8 Pavlik
     
  4. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,172
    1
    Aug 6, 2007
    :nut
     
  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    29,921
    35
    Mar 31, 2007
    :deal From the begining.
     
  6. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    29,921
    35
    Mar 31, 2007
    Ozell was his trainer from Childhood. It was Ozell's gym where Taylor learned to box, and Ozell who took him to the Olympics. Ozell may be his manager now, but he certainly WAS his original trainer (before Pat Burns, then Steward).
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

    24,017
    47
    Mar 4, 2006
    No, Taylor will be the same exact fighter he has been. He wont make new adjustments to deal with Pavlik's style and he wont fix his technical flaws. He's virtually going to be the same fighter without the confidence he had coming into the first fight.
     
  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    15,124
    7
    Mar 6, 2006
    :rofl :rofl :rofl
    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    29,921
    35
    Mar 31, 2007
    It's all good my friend. I learned it from a documentary on YouTube and the Countdown show HBO put out (which was all recently). I hope I didn't seem to be an ass, I've learned a few things from your posts too:good .
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

    39,848
    16
    Aug 29, 2006
    I don't think Ozell will make much difference either way. In my opinion Taylor going for the immediate rematch shows that he does not understand why he lost the fight and isn't really interested in correcting the flaws that got him knocked out. My feeling is that he thinks Pavlik got lucky, but if you have followed Kelly's career over the last few years you know that what we saw back in September was a typical Pavlik fight. I think the most likely scenario for the rematch is a repeat of the first fight, but there will be 3 significant differences: 1) Taylor will find himself in the ring with a bigger, stronger version of the same monster that knocked him out last time; 2) the bias displayed by the ******s who judge fights for HBO will favor Kelly; 3) Pavlik won't get cute and stick his chin out a second time, so there won't be a repeat of round 2. This all adds up to JT losing 2 straight to Pavlik.

    Boo
     
  11. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,203
    4,556
    Sep 28, 2007
    I feel that Jermain was a much better fighter before Steward and Ozell might help a little but it's up to Jermain to figure things out for himself.
     
  12. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,978
    0
    May 13, 2007

    So you do'nt think any of those combinations by Jermain had anything to do with it.:patsch
     
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

    39,848
    16
    Aug 29, 2006
    EXACTLY!! I really get fed up with this "Taylor almost had him out of there" mantra. Sometimes I get the feeling that at least some of those who keep chanting it didn't even see the ****ing fight. Pavlik gave Taylor a free ****ing shot at him AFTER JT threw several elbows! Pavlik was up at a count of 2, the ref looked Kelly over good, by rounds end JT was initiating the clinches, the ****ing doctor checked Pav out between rounds and had no problem with Kelly continuing, AND Kelly handed JT an ass whippin' I was impressed to see him survive IN THE VERY NEXT ROUND. Taylor hurt Pavlik. There is no question about that, but Pavlik was clearly a long way from knocked out.

    Boo