P4P Emile Griffith or Oscar Del La Hoya?.

Im playing anarci but it must be said you only say that about Saldivar and Zarate because some put them over your other favorite Mexicans

But instead of debating the topic and answering questions being asked of ya, namely mine..you seem to be happy to go on an old vs modern rant and drag the topic away from the simple discussion of Griffith and De La Hoya...all I want to know is why you have him so much higher, with a little bit of detail and why you think its such sacrilege to consider Emile the greater fighter?

Thats all...we can cover the other stuff another day mate.

 

Old ha when you guys see my picture you will think im alot younger than you think. I dont consider your guys knowledge low in fact i think The classic guys are pretty knowledgeable, My only complaint is the bias. Can you guy let come in your time machine:smoke

 

Ok ROck im not going all out again but see this Post^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

John Molina-- Better than Moyer,Ortega,Archer and Stable,Mims,Parett equal
Rafeal Ruelas- Moyer,Ortegas equal
Jesse Leija-------- See Molina
Genaro Hernadez--- Good win over a prime possible future HOF
Miguel Gonzalez- See Molina
Julio C Chavez- Even this version of Chavez was better than Molina
Pernell Whittaker- Close but clear win imo
Ike QuarteY- great win better than lot of the guys you mentioned Oscar pulled it out in one of his only clutch wins
Fernado Vargas- Still a very good fighter and a pfp on every ones list
Felix Trinidad- Roooooobedatsch
And i can name quite a few other quality names here Camacho,Gatti etc etc.
Shane Mosley- Since you mentioned Nino who beat him 2 0ut of 1 than i cam mention Oscar who should be 1-1 with Mosley Javier Castellejo- Yey talk **** but he was a 2x chAMP AND KOD STURM

 

****, I think Griffith lost every fight to Luis Rodriguez, lost to Dick Tiger once, lost to Gaspar Ortega once, lost to Benny Paret once, lost to Joey Archer once, and I STILL have him ranked higher than DLH.

Simply a better wins resume, simply a better welterweight, and Oscar does not look any better on film and arguably he looks worse, especially in big fights, as has already been pointed out by Lora in this thread.

Oh and Griffith has the edge in longevity too, just in case he needed anything to clinch a higher ranking.

 

Yey and Griffith got ktfo by the Hurricane in the first round:yep

Yey but that comment wasnt about Oscars fight with sturm, i was talking about how Castellejo(oscar victim) knocked out Sturm

 

I guess im alone hereatsch Im i gonna have to call Uli uli on you crusty old ****s

 

You can add to that:
Tom Bogs
Ernie Lopez
Bennie Briscoe
Jorge Jose Fernandez X 2
Ralph Dupas
Isaac Logart
Yama Bahama
Willie Toweel
Florentino Fernandez

Guys at least as good as some of the names anarci is bringing up for DLH.

 

Yey all of you have conviently forgot my question? Was Emile ever considered the best PFP? Did he ever storm thru divisions the way Oscar did? Was Oscar ever blown out in 1 round( yey i know Just had to throw that in)
If you want to bring up ODLH fight with Sturm well what about Kitten Hayward and Manuel Gonzalez? Dont act like Emile didnt have his slip ups and as for those other guys you brought up well Paez,Campas,Kamau,Dorsey,Bredahl, and a few other guys that slipped my mind were decent wins too, on top of the guys i already mentioned