P4P Emile Griffith or Oscar Del La Hoya?.

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  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A lot of Sweet Pea nuthuggers always like to claim that he was past it ,and i will be the first one to say that he wasnt the same Sweet Pea when he fought HurtaDPO. ................................ BUT Damn he turned back the clock for ODLH, and dont none of you MOFs try and tell me that he WAS WASHED UP THAT NIGHT.:nono:nono Sweat Pea was on his game that night and still lost a legitimate close but convincing decision.

    Ive been watching boxing too long and Whittaker was on his AAAAAAAAA game that night and the fight what played out the same way , if you had the one that fought Buddy Mcgrit there.
     
  2. TheGreatA

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    You could say that he "turned back the clock", or maybe it was just De La Hoya's timid effort that made Whitaker look better than he was at that point.

    This version of Whitaker was still good enough to outpoint top 10 contenders in close fights, but he was no longer the dominating force he had been previously when he shut out almost every opponent he faced.

    I don't think he just magically "turned back the clock", although he was likely in better shape and more motivated for a super fight with De La Hoya, but he was still suffering from the effects of age and past drug abuse. He brought whatever he had left in him and made a fight out of it, much like De La Hoya did against Mayweather. Oscar was later beaten badly by a buzzsaw in Pacquiao, so was Whitaker by Trinidad.
     
  3. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Come on dude:patsch Be honest with at least your self , Whittaker sucked balls against Hurtado until the end when he pulled out a clutch performance.

    Oscars was in his prime but barely ad******g to Welter, and still IMO won that fight.

    Delahoya had more left against May than Pea did against Tito, but dont even bring up Pac/ODLH :nono Thats like bringing up HOMES/ALI
     
  4. TheGreatA

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    I don't think I denied that. However fighters don't usually go from sucking to being an ATG in their prime.

    I compared DLH/Mayweather to DLH/Whitaker and DLH/Pacquiao to Whitaker/Trinidad. Oscar left it all in the ring against Mayweather, so did Whitaker against De La Hoya, and both essentially became "shot" afterwards.
     
  5. anarci

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    I think Oscar should go at a winner and comeback to beat up JC jr
     
  6. TheGreatA

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    In doing so he would become the first person to beat up both father and son in professional boxing since Jersey Joe Walcott stopped Phil Jackson and his son Harold I believe.
     
  7. anarci

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    :lol::lol: Oscar will never be an elite fighter again but he still has enought to beat up Chavez Jr, Duddy and guys like that. In fact if cotto lost a step i think ODLH would have a shot, I always liked ODLH style to handle Cotto:bbb
     
  8. TheGreatA

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    If he ever decides to make a comeback, and I do hope that he won't, he should forget about the 147 lb business and fight comfortably at 154-160. Aging fighters going down in weight has never worked.

    It looks bad if he goes out on a loss against Pacquiao but we shouldn't forget that nearly all of the great fighters went out on losses. Eventually his later fights will be forgotten.
     
  9. teeto

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    Griffith very clearly.
     
  10. anarci

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    Oscar would to what Napoloes did :yep
     
  11. TheGreatA

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    I thought Griffith too did the worst mistake an aging fighter could make, which was to drop down in weight at an advanced age. He had grown to a solid 154-160 lber and seemed drained at 147. I don't think he put up the best possible fight that a peak Emile Griffith could have against Napoles. Not saying he would have won anyway but Griffith had a tendency to make any fight a close one.
     
  12. teeto

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    Oscar would lose. He'd do well to box outside but i have no worries giving the hypothetical w to Griffith at all.
     
  13. teeto

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    Yeah you could imagine them both doing well in a trilogy say. But even at his frst stint at 147 i'd take Napoles if asked.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    I dont think either became 'shot' because of those fights, they both just got older and less dedicated in the following years, in Oscars case going down to a weight he shouldnt be at and in Whitakers snorting cocaine and not training for 2years
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    Congratulations you've just won the Nuthugging comment of the day :good