P4P Floyd Mayweather All Time....

One of the most complete fighters ever.

I rank him in the Top25 of all time and he's arguably the best of his era (1998-2008).

 

Roy Jones was better.

but definately Floyd is one of the best

 

He still has unfinished business, this discussion means nothing until he faces the top WW's of today, not has beens and not smaller guys.

 

He's perhaps top 40 of all time in terms of greatness.

In a purely head to head P4P sense, the 130 Mayweather rates higher.

 

top 25 clearly. Id have to check out my top 50 list and actually put it in order.

 

huh?

He has yet to face the top WW's, lets step back in reality.

First he would have to find the courage to face the top WW's then he would have to beat them . . .the first step seems pretty hard for him to get past.

 

ramshall is one of those haters who have evolved throughout the years as such:

1998: he's a hypejob (knockout out linear/wbc champ Hernandez)
1998: he wont fight a top p4p/undefeated fighter (kayos Corrales, FOY 98)
1999: he wont go up in weight (beats Castillo)
2000: that fight was bull**** he wont fight him again (beats Castillo again)
2001: he wont unify (spaddy and dorin fight to an ugly draw)
2002: he wont go up in weight (goes to 140, kayoes Gatti, 3rd wbc title)
2003: he wont fight Tszyu (Tszyu quits against hatton)
2004: he wont fight hatton/cotto (both rejects fights, he signs judah, he loses)
2005: he wont become welter champion (defeats last two undisputed champs, wins linear/undisputed/wbc welter title)
2006: he wont go up in weight and beat an atg (beat DLH)
2007: he never fought the best at 140 (knocks out hatton, FOY for the 2nd time)


now in 2008: he'll never fight a good welter like cotto...atsch it never changes

 

technically he's been the "smaller guy" for much of the last 4 years.

 

last 4 years? mayweather has ALWAYS been the smaller fighter. Hernandez and Corrales were huge for 130.

 

2006: He wont fight Margarito, tells AM to his face he will fight him, then proceeds to duck biggest pay day to that point

2006: Calls out Winky, only to duck Winky. :blood

2007: Ducks Shane to face the much smaller Hatton

2008: Reason for ducking Cotto. . . "Retired" . . . errr unretires to face the worthy Cotto??? NO, for bogus rematch with Ricky Martin.

 

he claims to be the best from 154 on down, perhaps he should prove it at 147 . . at least. atsch

 

He falls anywhere from 30-40 in my opinion - probably closer to 40. In a head to head sense, at 130, I have him number one (above Arguello, Chavez, and Nelson).

 

Chavez and Nelson give him a better fight than Arguello though, based on styles. I have those two about 50/50, and I favor him over Arguello.

Chavez was more active, but less technical at 130, so that's a hard one to call. I should probably see a bit more of him at the weight to judge.